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Post by
Kaitain
Different roles, so not comparable. There is no way to compare wether a resto or balance druid is better that a rogue for PvP.
If you are talking about ferals compared to rogues for PvP, you will get further in arena as a rogue. Sad but true. If you do mainly BGs, ferals can be god-like if played properly (and can kill rogues easily. weeee :-).
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144872
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Post by
Kaitain
Ferals can beat most DPS classes tbh, and a win is almost guaranteed if you have something to LoS around.
Healers on the other hand.. no chance. but then a lot of classes suffer from that deficiency.
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144872
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Post by
Kibou
Best way to kill a rogue? Bleeds!
WRONG.
100%Bear Form with full Raid-Equip!
Best way to kill a Feral right now?
Garrote, Repture and our Poison. Just stay never ever without any energy on his melee range :> Same against Warriors!
Oh and im happy for all bleeds @WotLK, Hunger for skill /muahaha.
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111159
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Post by
Kaitain
combined with the fact that with Berserk a druid's opener will be insane.
I've just done this quickly so don't eat me if I made a mistake here:
Fully talented (for energy cost reduction) cat ability costs:
shred
42
mangle
36
pounce
50
rip
30
Maim
35
So with Berserk up
shred
21
mangle
18
pounce
25
rip
15
Maim
17 (rounded up or down? i used down)
So here is a berserk opener, assuming you pounce immediately before an energy tick:
<100 energy>
Pounce - 75 energy
<+20 energy> - 95 energy
Mangle - 77 energy
Shred - 56 energy
<+20 energy> - 76 energy
Shred - 55 energy
Rip - 40 energy
<+20 energy> - 60 energy
Shred - 39 energy
Shred - 18 energy
<+20 energy> - 38 energy
Shred - 17 energy
Tiger's Fury - 77 energy
<+20 energy> - 97energy
..... and so on. So to recap, the opener was:
Pounce, Mangle, Shred, Shred, Rip, Shred, Shred, Shred, Tiger's Fury.....
Full Energy still
. The positioning of the Rip assumes nothing critted, which seeing as a s3/4 feral has 40-45% crit is unlikely. Also - remember the rogue cannot CC you in any way throughout this. The number of Shreds is assuming there are other people in the fight, or the rogue is running away. Still a pretty cool avalanche of pain though.
Post by
Celdhyrean
No more energy ticks, it now (well, in beta) refills at 1 point energy every 1/10th of a second (ie you won't wait for ticks anymore). Meaning all this will take less time than it did previously, you'll mainly be constrained by GCDs during that sequence.
Post by
Kaitain
ah... okie :-)
The sequence as presented is more or less constrained by GCDs anyways, as you are at no point out of energy. You aren't waiting for ticks, they are just happening as you spam.
Post by
Celdhyrean
It makes you start your mangle/shred rotation with 85 energy instead of 95, though that doesn't change anything in the following sequence.
Post by
Kaitain
a ye good point :-)
Post by
Kibou
Berserk is hardcore but Rogues can use Evasion as a counter.
Post by
Kibou
Mohahaha WOOOT?
But you know.. In Wotlk Druids will get 30% dmg redution while stuned with bear form something around 70-80% I guess.
You'll die of Thorns... which will probably all so Improve maybe 50 dmg/hit? IMBAAAA!
Please dont be stupid who use Kidney Shot on Bears and WAYNE WHITEHITS?
Bleed and Poisons. In WotLK Mutilate Rogues get 4 Poisons with 55%procc and +40% damage. Bleeding effect +20%.
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144872
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Post by
Kaitain
lol. :-D
takes more than one rogue boasting on forums to change the reality that ferals > rogue in 1v1
My point with the berserk breakdown was simply that this reality is not likely to change in WotLK.
Post by
faia
the one with most skill and know what they do end...
kill a rogue? bleed or go bear claw
kill a feral? CC him and evasion (ah love of that skill vs small kitty's who lose all their energy to waste....the <3)
its many situation , did the rogue find the druid first? or did the druid find the rogue first? first hit will say much as its either paunch vs Cheap shot make a bit different
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