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Kaitain
Groups don't normally need secondary healers in dungeons, and for solo play you can just go full feral. you won't get hurt.
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faia
we got talent calc on wowhead btw
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0
but still you will need healing gear to be somewhat a off healer
if it not just easy instance (13-70 non heroic)
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Angelyne
Feral and the Resto tree (apart from the few talents which should have been feral) do not have good synergy.
5/5 Improved Mark of the Wild is considered inferior, and resto druids only take it because they need the points to get further into the tree and Furor would be even more useless for a resto. Those are 5 points you should put in furor instead. Improved tranquility is a talent that even some resto druid don't even take because it's too situational to waste 2 points on.
Yeah that build is silly. You didn't link it, so I cant be bothered to figure out what you had to sacrifice in the feral tree in order to get those mostly useless points in resto, but for sure it's gimping you as a feral.
Anyway healing at 70 is mostly gear related. The talents you picked might give your heals a little more oomph, but without proper healing gear, your mana won't be enough do more than a few spot heals. And you don't need any talents for that really. If you are main healing an instance as a feral, then you'll need some healing gear, which will easily compensate for the lack of healing talents. I've main healed easy instances like UB and SV as a feral with +800 heals and a
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27886
.
The thing about playing the game at 70 is you have to be the very best you can be to be competitive. By spending your points in incompatible trees, you dilute your effectiveness and weaken your character and thus make you less viable.
If you want to be hydridize effectively, you should try a balance/resto build. Those 2 trees are much more compatible and because gear normally have both +heals and + spell, you probably could easily switch between the two roles fairly effectively and without a re-spec
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razzem
but still you will need healing gear to be somewhat a off healer
No he wont.....
did you not notice the 2/2
Nurturing Instinct
That + healing wep = mad feral heals.
Although I will admit, thats a
Horrible
spec.
If this is a level 80 build, NI will only be 70% +heal from agility, no longer 100%.
All that to add, a 0/30/31 build is pretty freaking
potent PVP build
for feral and healing IF you have the gear to support it. It requires INT (20% increase from HotW) and AGI (for the bonus heal).
Don't knock it until you try it. But honestly, you have some pretty awesome offensive and healing power. For all of you ferals that are bored, buy the cheap pvp BG blue set for 100G (which has +heal, +AGI, and INT on it), socket it with AGI and INT gems (or the healing and int hybrid gems) and respec 0/30/31. Not amazing for pve, but definately amazing for pvp. It really is quite the fun build.
Pretty much the hybrid build off of the wowwiki talent build page, but with more talent points to put in feral now. Clearly a hybrid and not the pinnicle of being honed for tank/dps or healing per se, but pretty darn good at both. If you haven't tried this build for pvp, you should, it's really fun switching from tank to healer and having pretty serious potency in either form. I loved the shock value of pvping with it in bgs and going from healer to tank with just one switch. Plus, the expressions from the horde were pretty funny when I was getting focused on as a healer, only to switch to tank mode and give them some serious grief.
Best items for this build are the pvp BG set (feral)
Treemenders Belt
Barkchip Boots
Forestlord Bracers
Terrestrians Stranglestaff
and some "of the Falcon" rings/jewelry stuff. It's a really fun build if you enjoy switching rolls on a whim.
EDIT:
Probably the best "hybrid" talent builds will be between resto and balance now, with HT being the focus (especially with the new glyph to reduce the casting time.
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0xcrzicshdZZfVhuVzxbz
I'd probably throw them into Balance for more dps/utility for Imp FF and Wrath of Cenarious, but some might want to try to use the points in the HoT talents in the Resto tree. I'm sure we'll see lots of new dreamstate builds with points swinging different ways, but the HT builds will probably be the best with all of the mp efficiency that balance gives to HT through Dreamstate, Moonglow, and Lunar Guidance.
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razzem
Hey Mare-
Good post, and interesting thoughts. I'm not saying that you will be the end-all be-all. Personally, I find that HotW is vasty important for the STA boost that it gives when in bear form and the INT boost in caster form, 2 points in it just doesn't cut it for me.
Maybe its a style thing, but when I was playing the 0/30/31 build, I found that bear form lacerating (dot'ing rogues and casters) was very effective. This was my build :
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxbGsfbMxZVxIzcq0Lo
Anyway, the way that I played this build was either as a healer, or as a bear to outlast/tank the big opposition pushes. You get some good cat stuff too, but you're right that w/o mangle, your shreds are less.
Foley is totally right on the NI comment. NI is getting nerfed b/c T5-ish ferals have about ~1000+ healing due to the huge amount of AGI that they have stacked. Of course, if you are factoring in spell power, it means you're stacking AGI and Spellpower, hence the whole hybrid thing again.
Really though, hybrids don't work great for pve, but they sure can be effective (and more importantly, fun!) for pvp. NI is a huge boon that has made the 30/31 build really fun again... pop a bunch of hots on yourself, jump to cat, have it heal you for 20% while attacking them, bounce to bear for a bash/lacerate, more heals on yourself. Well, you get the idea. I really have fun with it, anyway :D
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