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Wait wait wait, Draenei Death-Knights??
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Derichian
The only way I can foresee Draenei being deathknights, are if the lich king was able to corrupt his prisoners. As you know after Nerzuhul became the lich king sargeres or kiljaeden (not sure who) sent essentially Wardens to watch over him to make sure hes doing his job. It was Dreadlord's who were the jailors but without a doubt Dreadlords do have control over some of the legion it wouldn't be to hard to believe that some eredar's under the Dreadlord's control could have been swayed to serve the lich king via the necromancy ressurection. But thats my two cents.
though if i were an eredar, and i had the choice of following A.) Sageras, The Ultimate Evil Entity of the Universe. or B.) the Lich-king (some Human D*uchebag in some Orc D*uchebags Armor) i think id choose sargeras =P, and i dont think eredar would turn back good coz of some random human guy they probably never met before ever, slaping their master with Ashbringer, because also in the storyline the reason the Dk's turn back is because they remember being in the argent Dawn, last i checked no draenei in argent dawn pre-wc3 =P, and definitely no eredar XD
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Sahtra
Deri your right that it would be better to server Sageras over the lich king, but the lich king has been known to enslave entire races to do his bidding ya' know? So it wouldn't be to hard to believe that he could have MC a couple of eredar and as for them turning good...well maybe it's just beneficial for them, or they just got tired of being enslaved take it like the Forsaken perspective, for all we know the just want Arthas/Lich King dead for enslaving them and taking away there free will. Also the greatest allure the lich king and cult of the damned had was to further your studies in demonic arts. Why do you think Kel'thuzad was in the Cult of the Dead to begin with? Would it be hard to believe they also just wanted to become more powerful than they were? Or perhaps they were teachers themselves teaching humans how to wield these new powers and were turned against, raised to the lich kings will? These are just ideas and theorys but anything can happen. Lich King can corrupt and enslave, also it isn't unfeasible to believe that some Draenei went to help out the Argent Dawn, as servants of light's themselves they would aid the Argent Dawn in a heart beat, and it isn't hard to believe they were killed and corrupted , hell Mograine is the greatest example of forced servitude. You think the Scarlet Crusades greatest champion wants to be one the top Death Knights the lich king has?
That's all I got for lore answers as to why Draenei can become Dk's
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Derichian
also it isn't unfeasible to believe that some Draenei went to help out the Argent Dawn, as servants of light's themselves they would aid the Argent Dawn in a heart beat, and it isn't hard to believe they were killed and corrupted
i like your points dude but with this part of your quote, as i said earlier this is set around the time of the third war, when draenei weren't even known to Azeroth, thats how i find it weird how they could be inthe argent dawn if they werent even to arrive for another 3-4 years.
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Derichian
i like your points dude but with this part of your quote, as i said earlier this is set around the time of the third war, when draenei weren't even known to Azeroth, thats how i find it weird how they could be inthe argent dawn if they werent even to arrive for another 3-4 years.
3-4 years prior? From what I've been reading along the lines of the quests it appears to be more recent than that. The time line could possibly range anywhere from just barely before the opening the Dark Portal to days after Kil'jaden's defeat at the sunwell. Also it isn't THAT much of a leap concidering that we have Anchorite Truuen chillin' with the Argent Dawn in the Western Plaguelands.
We could consider that for a moment time line wise this is probably current events going on. My reasoning for this is A.) During Quests members of the Scarlet Crusade are setting sail for Northrend. B.) We witness the formation of the faction now known as the "Argent Crusade" C.) Varian Wrynn is the Alliance Faction Leader Death Knights are sent to in-order to gain admitance into the alliance.
Perhaps I am wrong. But from what I've seen from the quest text this is either happening as events are coming to a wrap up in outland or somewhere in that area. Hence why it may not be so much of a strain to see Draenei DKs. I hope this has lent a machette to some of your doubts and confusion. If you wish to test ANY of my theories check out the quest logs on Wowwiki for the starting DK area. Thank you.
it is set as kelthuzad and the arthas are assaulting Lordaeron in WC3.. i.e 3-4 yrs before wow.
Post by
ranikotar
because thus far, it makes jack all sense for a draenei to be a Death-knight, That would be Like saying Superman Came before Clark kent.
technically superman did come before clark kent if you think about it.....they thought of the idea of a super man before they thought of his *secret name*
and about being *good* deathknights, they probably sought more power, so they went on to become a deathkight but once becoming deeply involved with the lich king they probably tried to break off from his power and grasp, and upon successfuly doing so they traveled back to there old races with new information about the war and seeked to help against the struggle against the lich kings power
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turkeytime
the biggest mistake on the lore to this thread is, if DKs are necromancers put into dead bodies, the NE and Draenei(eredar) dks can exist, but then how u explain that the Dks in the lore perserve their mortal minds? i mean teron gorefiend is himself, arthas , the guy with the corrupted ashbringer i think is mograine, they all perserved their minds , so to make this all work, blizz has to say something like "well arthas minions have necromancers souls in a potion and sell it for free on factions auction house named as the new noggenfogger elixir" that is my only clue lol
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`we re just cry babys trying to figure a story from the lack of attention from blizzard story developers :)
Post by
NavySealPunk
Wait so the Death Knights are With the Lich King? Doesn't that mean its a new faction created?
Cause if not then couldn't Death Knights be Death Knights that have been "saved/converted" to good and not evil. So they still remember the skills brought on by the lich king?
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NavySealPunk
Also! If Blizzard did suddenly choose Death Knights to be Alliance only! The They should make Blade Masters for Horde!
Just a Crazy Imagination Suggestion...
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