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Who Should The Big Bad Of WoD Really Be?
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Ozlem
Yes but this time Velen has stayed. Before Velen fled so KJ left once he thought the Draenei were finished.... but Velen has chosen to stay on Draenor this time round. As Velen is KJ end game, that changes things, don't you think?Um...da heck are you talking about? The draenei didn't leave Outland until shortly before the Burning Crusade; Velen was on Draenor after the war, when the Horde invaded Azeroth and when the planet exploded.
Sorry English isn't my main language. Am I wrong in thinking Velen fled to Zangarmarsh because the Naru told him he needed to stay alive and shortly after flees the outlands. Wasn't the naru helping Velen to always stay a step ahead of KJ and told him when to run with the Draenei? The catalyst of making KJ leave was he thought Velen and the Draenei were in Shattrah when the bloodlust orcs attacked so knowing they could never survive (and Archimode telling him he was wasting his time now Velen's end is inevitable) KJ leaves.
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this time Velen doesn't flee because there was no attack on Shattrah so Velen stayson Draenor and because Velen stays KJ would also naturally stay. Since KJ is a powerful demon lord hell bent on revenge from Velen's rejection (and at this stage Sargeras is off doing his own thing) I nominate KJ as being the big bad.
That's what I meant, sorry it's the best way I can explain it.
(Also it's never said Argus exploded, only it describes it as 'destroyed'. It's been argued topic for years by lore lovers that 'destroyed' either means a physical explosion or it was transformed (think terraformed) buy the burning legion and turned into a stronghold. But yeah no book or comic actually outright states the world has exploded and even Chris Metzen on panels when asked, has remained tight lipped on the status of Argus. All we know was Velen and the exiles had to flee or they would have been corrupted by Sargeras too.)
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Adamsm
Um....Again: Draenor is Outland; Draenor at the end of the Second War blew up. Outland was formed after. Yes, Velen went into Zangarmarsh, same as so many others...and there they remained for two decades until the Naaru showed up shortly before the start of BC when Illidan reopened the Dark Portal and that was when Kael invaded Tempest Keep. Up until that point there was one Naaru on Draenor; poor broken K'ure sealed inside of the sacred mountain Oshu'gan.
The draenei survived on their own without Naaru intervention following the destruction of Shattrah; at that point KJ gave up on Draenor and the Orcs and walked off, not confirming that Velen was dead because the entire purpose was to kill off the Exiles who had been fleeing from them for 25 thousand years...and that still didn't work.
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