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Post by
Gone
also anyone els think titan could be warcraft four? sargeras is a titan after all
ehhhh, i doubt it
Post by
Pwntiff
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/12/17/blizzard-confirms-project-titan/1
"That Blizzard has been working on a new MMO"
"It's our next-gen MMO"
"Pearce stopped short of confirming any other details about Project Titan, which is speculated to be a sci-fi MMOFPS and a brand new IP for Blizzard. "
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138638
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Post by
Gone
Dude stop flashing that map of their outlined projects like it means anything, its not official, and probobly not even real, and please for the love of god dont list a thousand reasons now why you think it is real. Also stop paroting everything that pwntiff says
Although i do agree with you its probobly not warcraft related, its too soon for them to be considering a sequel to wow
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138638
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Post by
Pwntiff
He's also not parroting me. He's saying the same thing that a Google of "Blizzard Titan" returns. That it's an
MMO
, has sci-fi overtones, it is supposed to be new intellectual property. That completely rules out Titan from being WarCraft IV, as well as Worlds of StarCraft.
If you want a compilation of sources:
http://www.blizzardnewmmo.com/Titan
Post by
Gone
Same thing, i already said they would make more money from both than just doing one, they dont magicly stop getting money from wow just because they made another game, and that scribbled peice of paper dosnt prove anything
Except people would drop their WoW subs for a bit while playing WC3, also games don't just magically poof into existence they have to make it and use resources *cough* people who know what to do with Warcraft Franchise *cough* Why use those resources into that when you can improve your MMO and make sure that you keep giving people a reason to come back instead of putting people who know about WC lore and helped make the franchise on an RTS.
That "scribbled piece of paper" is more proof than you've been able to muster
While Warcraft and wow may take place in teh same mythos, they are very different games, them comming out with a WC4 mid expansion would be the same as Stracraft 2, its an RTS game, so its a different experience than playing an MMO
As for your last comment, i never claimed to have any proofe, im not going to find the most random BS i can online and offer it up and pretend its proof
Post by
Pwntiff
No, they are different genres, but they are still the same story. You don't write a book, release a sequel movie, then complete the trilogy with an opera.
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138638
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Post by
Gone
Which makes Blizzard more money: recurring subscriptions or initial sales?
WC4 would give them what $60 a sale and $40 for any xpac
whereas WoW gives them $40 for cata + everything under it and $15 a month so with just buying cata and a month sub they would have made the same amount of money as a WC4 game
"That Blizzard has been working on a new MMO"
"It's our next-gen MMO"
"Pearce stopped short of confirming any other details about Project Titan, which is speculated to be a sci-fi MMOFPS and a brand new IP for Blizzard. "
The next MMO project is Titan,
Also, assuming this isn't a (pure) hoax, there isn't a plan for WCIV.
one look at this I don't see the name WC4 in there anywhere do you?.
He's also not parroting me
I'm not Parotting what pwntiff said
No hes not paroting you at all
Post by
Pwntiff
Nope, because I'm pretty sure we've been on opposing sides of debates in the past too. Two people drawing the same conclusions from the same data isn't parroting.
Post by
Gone
Dude stop flashing that map of their outlined projects like it means anything, its not official, and probobly not even real, and please for the love of god dont list a thousand reasons now why you think it is real. Also stop paroting everything that pwntiff says
Although i do agree with you its probobly not warcraft related, its too soon for them to be considering a sequel to wow
Like I said it's more proof than you've been able to come otherwise, people were saying the exact same thing about cataclysm not being official and not being real, then Blizzcon came along, also I won't give you a long list of reasons why I belive it's real but I'll give you one, the list was leaked before Frank Pearce confirmed that their new MMO was named Titan. I'm not Parotting what pwntiff said it just took me longer to write it since I was looking for exact quotes on everything and by the time I entered it Pwntiff already gave just about the same info
I never claimed ot have any proof, and neither do you, you yourself said neither of us know
Post by
Gone
Also for the record, i never claimed i thought Warcraft 4 was going to be made in the immediate future or at all, from the begining i was just wondering, what we have been debating is weather or not it
could
be made before the end of wow, so once again unless wowx5 is the final expansion, then that chart proves nothing for our debate
Post by
138638
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Post by
Pwntiff
And I've stated my reason why it won't be made while WoW is ongoing.
Post by
Gone
first 2 quotes is common sense, why to companies make products, to make a profit, so why would they do something like that when they can make much more profit on their current product.
Those are blizzards exact words, we just both quoted blizzard I guess you could say we're paroting blizzard
that timeline is all over the internet and is a good piece of evidence as to why there won't be any WC4 in the near future
All those quotes show is that both me and Pwntiff are referencing and backing up our claims
As for the money debate, as i have said several times, if they made WC4 they wouldnt replace wow, so they wouldnt lose any money, if anything they would make mor emoney because it would bring in new fans, MMO fans who only played wow would go out and try Warcraft, and RTS fans who picked up warcraft would go out and try wow
And as i said in my last poste, we have not been debating weather or not WC4 would come out in the near future, we were debating weather or not it could and would work if it came out before the end of wow, so even of that chart is completley accurate, it has no bearing on the debate
Post by
Gone
And I've stated my reason why it won't be made while WoW is ongoing.
And ive stated my reasons why it could work, which takes me back to what i said 2 pages ago, that we are just arguing in circles
Post by
Pwntiff
Most recent "proof" I've found one way or the other is this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/BLizzard-Warcraft-RTS-PC-Game
,9145.html
Basically, the team that would do WC4 is currently doing SC2, so it's not even a possibility until Legacy of the Void is out of development. Which means ~2013 for the possibility of entering development, and if it takes as long as SC2 did, ~2017 for the first installment.
That's assuming it actually goes in to development in the first place. That article is over a year old and not definitive one way or the other.
Post by
457614
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Post by
Pwntiff
They officially announced in 2007, so add whatever you think is necessary to those three years, but remember that WC4 would likely use the same game engine as SC2 so that reduces the necessary dev time.
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