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Post by
megaleafs
Hey,
Our guild has started raiding again, once a week. We are starting with Magmaw and have got the worms down. Our RL is of the mind Magmaw is the easiest boss to start on.
My question is should we be in BWD or maybe you gotta start with BoT or the Four Winds.........
What's everyone's experience, have you also been jumping around picking off bosses here and there or are you clearing one then moving on.
Cheers,
Mega
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marklartank
i'd say it depends on your group makeup.
if you have a frost DK, magmaw is stupidly easy. really, the adds are the whole fight, so if you think you've got that worked out, stay there.
conclave of wind is probably the easiest overall of all the early bosses, just takes some coordination which is really simple over vent.
halfus is about on the same level as magmaw, and partly depends on the drake combo you have, but overall it's a pretty easy fight - even more so if you have heroism/bloodlust.
valiona is probably about equal to halfus & magmaw.
omnotron defense council is slightly harder i'd say simply because there's more ways to screw up.
Post by
megaleafs
We have one Shaman healer that is all business so thats good. But second and third healers are usually filled in by people who prefer to DPS or are undergeared. Problem were working through.
For Magmaw I lead and havent really gotten through a Mangle and the debuff beofre the raid wipes. We have a Pally tank with Like I say though we "just" got the worms down. I usually save my Shield Wall for when the mangle hits. I really don't see much issue tanking this it seems like I'm just waiting till the rest of the raid gets it down.
Is there anything I can do to help the raid besides sitting there tanking. If I'm OT can I get in and help with worms?
Two healers is normally what we roll with due to lack of DPS on worms. But now that were crafting epics and getting all around 350 ilvl I might push for three healers. I just dont see us getting it down with the two we have.
Mega
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marklartank
We have one Shaman healer that is all business so thats good. But second and third healers are usually filled in by people who prefer to DPS or are undergeared. Problem were working through.
For Magmaw I lead and havent really gotten through a Mangle and the debuff beofre the raid wipes. We have a Pally tank with Like I say though we "just" got the worms down. I usually save my Shield Wall for when the mangle hits. I really don't see much issue tanking this it seems like I'm just waiting till the rest of the raid gets it down.
Is there anything I can do to help the raid besides sitting there tanking. If I'm OT can I get in and help with worms?
Two healers is normally what we roll with due to lack of DPS on worms. But now that were crafting epics and getting all around 350 ilvl I might push for three healers. I just dont see us getting it down with the two we have.
Mega
there are three ways i've tried to handle the worms.
1) frost traps + massive AOE
2) OT + 1 dps kills worms
3) frost DK + 1 dps kill worms
we used method #1 for our first kill, but overall it's a much more difficult strategy. #3 is easiest, but if you don't have a DK just use an OT for the adds with one dps to help AOE. everyone else can stay on the boss, and you can comfortably 3 heal.
there is no reason to have two tanks on magmaw. as a warrior, you'd be best suited for adds with shockwave + victory rush heals.
Post by
megaleafs
So when using option 2 or 3 I assume that we aren't worrying about spawning more worms?
I am having a tough time picturing tanking those guys without them hitting the tank and spawning more.
Anything specific instructions you have for tanking worms?
Mega
Post by
marklartank
So when using option 2 or 3 I assume that we aren't worrying about spawning more worms?
I am having a tough time picturing tanking those guys without them hitting the tank and spawning more.
Anything specific instructions you have for tanking worms?
Mega
if you use a frost DK spamming howling blast, the worms are pretty easy to avoid - we got the raid
achievement
last kill with that set up. if you use a tank, of course he gets hit and gets infected. the thing is, the infection doesn't seem to stack and it only seems to
spawn
ONE extra add.
very easy to heal through and very easy to control. some tanks can probably kill the adds alone within 30 seconds, but put one AOE class to help out if you want to be safe.
everyone else can stack on melee, which makes raid healing a lot easier and means the lava will always target the tank. i'd glyph VR, shockwave, and cleave if i was OT for the fight. i'd also spec into B&T.
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Post by
Porcell
Based on the progression of my server:
133 Guilds Ranked.
Blackwing Descent
1) Magmaw: 65 (48.87%)
2) Omnotron Defense System: 54 (40.60%)
6) Maloriak: 41 (30.83%)
7) Atramedes: 27 (20.30%)
8a) Chimaeron: 23 (17.29%)
12) Nefarian: 8 (6.02%)
The Bastion of Twilight
3) Halfus Wyrmbreaker: 53 (39.85%)
5) Valiona and Theralion: 44 (33.08%)
8b) Ascendant Council: 23 (17.29%)
10) Cho'gall: 15 (11.28%)
Throne of the Four Winds
4) Conclave of Wind: 47 (35.34%)
11) Al'Akir: 12 (9.02%)
For us personally, the order we downed the bosses (mix of 25 man and 10 man) was Conclave, Halfus, Valiona, Ascendant Council, Magmaw, Omnitron, Maloriak, Atramedes, Cho'gall, Chimaeron, Al'akir, Nef.
If you want to look at all US rankings, based on 14,843 guilds.
Blackwing Descent
1) Magmaw: 13663 (92.05%)
3) Omnotron Defense System: 11667 (78.60%)
6) Maloriak: 8475 (57.10%)
7) Atramedes: 6455 (43.49%)
8) Chimaeron: 5477 (36.90%)
12) Nefarian: 1344 (9.05%)
The Bastion of Twilight
2) Halfus Wyrmbreaker: 11801 (79.51%)
4) Valiona and Theralion: 9165 (61.75%)
9) Ascendant Council: 4970 (33.48%)
10) Cho'gall: 3097 (20.87%)
Throne of the Four Winds
5) Conclave of Wind: 8982 (60.51%)
11) Al'Akir: 2343 (15.79%)
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