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Post by
CrimzonEyed
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonmaw/xenogt/simple
On the my hunter i have notice something disturbing... My arcane shot does more dmg than my explosive shot.
Arcane shot avg dmg: 703
Arcane shot avg crit dmg: 1406
Explosive shot avg dmg: 580
Explosive shot avg crit dmg: 1069
test done on mobs same lvl as myself with hunters mark and culling the herd buff up.
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and arcane shot also cost half the focus...
Now i wounder if it's because of my lvl and that explosive shot maybe get better att a higher lvl?
It's seems so when arcane shot do more dmg than exposive shot.
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CrimzonEyed
i don't have a rotation atm only a priority list in my head, on bosses were it isn't much movement for example bosses like
Omor the Unscarred
in hellfire ramp i simply do like this: Start with hunters mark, then serpent sting followed by explo shot and 1 arcane shot then i rapid fire and steady shot untill enogh focus/cd on explo shot. oh btw in the beginning i throw up a explosive trap too and refresh it if i feel the fights are going to be long.
So in short explo shot whenever i can, keep serpent and hunters mark up. dump focus with arcane shot. and a trap at start of fight.
Post by
atomicwolf22
Hmm the damage differance is possible do you your gylphs. Es has a 6% chance to crit. And As has a 12% damage buff. That could account for the difference.
Also you may want to drop Es gylph for Kill Shot is a very nice gylph for most if not all hunter specs.
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skribs
Your average AS is (703*1.17) = 822.5 damage (factoring in crits with your crit rate), which is 32.9 damage per focus.
Your average ES is (580*1.23) = 713.4 damage (factoring in glyph and crits) per tick, which is 2140.2 damage per shot, or 42.8 damage per focus.
Also factor in that with ES, you use 1 GCD, whereas the same time with AS you would use 2 GCDs. Which means you lose 2/3 of a Steady Shot (cobra shot at higher levels) for using AS over ES, which is a focus return and damage back that you wouldn't get with using 2x AS.
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CrimzonEyed
Hmm the damage differance is possible do you your gylphs. Es has a 6% chance to crit. And As has a 12% damage buff. That could account for the difference.
Also you may want to drop Es gylph for Kill Shot is a very nice gylph for most if not all hunter specs.
I won't use kill shot glyph befor i unlock 1 more prime glyph since i hardly have any use for Kill shot atm. Almost all mobs die befor kill shot reach them. (only worth using on bosses and players atm)
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atomicwolf22
Hmm the damage differance is possible do you your gylphs. Es has a 6% chance to crit. And As has a 12% damage buff. That could account for the difference.
Also you may want to drop Es gylph for Kill Shot is a very nice gylph for most if not all hunter specs.
I won't use kill shot glyph befor i unlock 1 more prime glyph since i hardly have any use for Kill shot atm. Almost all mobs die befor kill shot reach them. (only worth using on bosses and players atm)
Hmm yes thats the point read the gylph text. You get a free second shot.
Which is nice the bigger the health pools get the more chance you have to use this. The gylph is alot better the a extra 6% crit chance that the ES Gylph provides. Also you may won't to check your data almost all Hunter Spec's will use Kill Shot Gylph. Sv being one of the specs that does.
Post by
Strydorne
First let me say, Im not leet... Im not a newb... BUT.. I am still learning...
so let me ask this please...
my rotation.. goes like this... HM, SS, BA, ES, then cobra, cobra, cobra, then back to ES or BA, whichever is off cd..
I was reading on here yesterday and it seems many people say that when you get LnL you should do ES, Arcane, ES, Arcane..
Also factor in that with ES, you use 1 GCD, whereas the same time with AS you would use 2 GCDs. Which means you lose 2/3 of a Steady Shot (cobra shot at higher levels) for using AS over ES, which is a focus return and damage back that you wouldn't get with using 2x AS.
would this make a difference with what is used when LnL goes off? or is ES, Arc, ES, Arc ok in this situation?
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CrimzonEyed
hmm and now next patch they buff arcane shot by another 15% and nerf explosive shot by 15%...
Post by
matheus314
hmm and now next patch they buff arcane shot by another 15% and nerf explosive shot by 15%...
This will bring them to near the same damage per focus.
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