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Post by
Acil
For tank trinkets should I use a stam trinket and agi trinket or what?
Post by
pelf
EJ thinks you should use the massive hit trinket with Agility proc with the hit reforged to dodge from Stonecore + the stamina trinket from Stonecore.
Not sure what the Platonic truth is, here.
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306052
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Post by
pelf
Yeah, the stacking one is nice too. I think I have the non-heroic version of that in my bags. I should go get the heroic one. Actually, the problem with Tia's Grace is that Mastery is pretty crappy. I suppose you could reforge it off, but at least with the hit one, you get the value from the hit, whatever it is (probably > mastery) plus whatever you reforge to (dodge).
Post by
LookOut
I'm currently using Rajh's Left Eye (expertise + agi proc) and the JC trinket Earthen Guardian (stam + dodge on use).
(...) Mastery is pretty crappy. I suppose you could reforge it off, but at least with the hit one, you get the value from the hit, whatever it is (probably > mastery) plus whatever you reforge to (dodge).
Seeing as I keep saying crit/mastery items are best for ferals, and the fact that mastery is the LAST stat I'd reforge to dodge (I'm even being sub-optimal atm and reforging to mastery to use the item in both specs), I would place mastery higher than hit tbh.
I'm not sure if I'd replace any of my trinkets with Tia's Grace. My expertise is already a bit low, and although we don't really need it, I'd prefer to have SOME left ^_^ Also, the Left Eye proc is pretty huge, but I have no clue on the internal cd ... 45 sec as usual? So proc-wise, I'm unsure which is "best" tbh :-/ But they're both kick-ass that's for sure!
Post by
Falkor
@pelf
since when is hit > mastery for bears?
last i read the reforging debate was going between reforging into either mastery or dodge. hit and exp being nearly worthless, and leaving crit alone (so reforging haste/hit/exp into dodge or mastery).
been a few weeks since i was on EJ, but did hit really surpass mastery? or does the agility proc outweigh the stacking agi buff by so much that the hit is more desirable than mastery? seems like tia's grace with mastery reforged to dodge would be win-win unless mastery has dropped very low on a bears list.
Post by
pelf
I may be talking out of my ass. I'm not sure why the list at EJ includes the hit/agiproc over the mastery/agistack.
Post by
curlymon
Rawr is suggesting the Exper + Agi proc trinket along side the Hit + Agi proc. For those wondering, yes, if both proc they will stack rather then overwrite. Our bear tank tested the crap out of it to double check.
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306052
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Post by
curlymon
Rawr is suggesting the Exper + Agi proc trinket along side the Hit + Agi proc. For those wondering, yes, if both proc they will stack rather then overwrite. Our bear tank tested the crap out of it to double check.
Are the hit and exp ones simply because we shouldn't be getting it anywhere else so it should be more useful or what? I'm only asking since 185/(whatever is left after reforging to it dodge) mastery should be better than whatever ammount of hit or expertise, assuming the stacks and the proc are roughly equal over time.
It's more about the shear strength of the procs.
Post by
pelf
Can they rip things apart?
Post by
curlymon
Can they rip things apart?
I shall have to test.
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306052
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Post by
pelf
No, probably not. But we will tireless ridicule people for not investigating the question and finding this thread on their own, when they ask again
:)
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Post by
curlymon
No, probably not. But we will tireless ridicule people for not investigating the question and finding this thread on their own, when they ask again
:)
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So... business as usual then? *grin*
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