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How DOES Blizzard justify it?
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Monday
It's the other way around for me. Balance druids and any type of warlock/mage roflstomp my rogue.
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soccergenius
Edit - and wouldn't it be 'do', not 'does'? Because Blizzard stands for a company, not an individual. A collective; so I'd have thought 'do' would be appropriate?
Because you asked (knowledge is power), Blizzard is singular, it's one company. When the noun is singular, you use "does." How does
he
do it? Compare that to a plural noun, "How do
they
do it?
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Orranis
I agree that Heirloom's definitely need to be normalized. Unfortunately, with them being as expensive as they are now, I cannot afford to buy them for every single of my alt. I understand the mentality of letting people who've already experienced the content get through it again faster, but that in no way justifies the incredible stat advantage they have over regular gear. Also, if you want to draw new player's INTO the game, especially PvP, giving them an incredible disadvantage next to all other player's will not help you at all. If the only PvP experience they have is being Mortal Strike one-shotted they will not come back.
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MrSCH
My English is very good, I won't lie. I've made one mistake; I've used 'do' instead of 'does'. And somehow that's me 'butchering' the English language? Forgive me, but that's bull*!@#.
For those saying L2 PvP, I'm not perfect, but what can I do? I get Ambushed and lose 80% of my HP, Evisc kills me. No matter how skilled I am, I can't do anything. I've tried roots, run and rejuv, and even popping Travel Form. These are all keybound, and still I'm dead before I can get the distance.
And this is my issue! Skill is not rewarded. Instead, facerolling a couple of heroics pre-4.0 and somehow entitling you to being OP in low level PvP is my problem.
I'll accept people don't share my view, and whatever - that's perfectly fine. But there's no need to be a ^&*! about it. This is what I mean.
I understand your position. However, it's fair to say that from Blizzard's perspective, low-level PvP is not an issue. It's there for fun, not for real reward. I'm sorry to say it, but you're just going to have to suck it up.
+1.
QQ moar nab, L2P
Unnecessary. Helps nobody, makes the person look like an arrogant buffon.
So, to recap!
-Sorry for being crap at English.
-Sorry for QQing, but it's frustrating to be repeatedly stomped when you can do nothing about it.
-I'll suck it up. Thanks to those with constructive points of views, it was interesting reading them just now.
@Clearly - wow. Over-exaggeration of the freakin' century.
@Hzle - that's a horrible company ethos. Please don't ever start one. Without us, there would be no Blizzard. Of course they have to justify their actions.
@finxz - Shut up.
@Entropyutd - Yes, you're largely right. However, 'gung-ho' isn't right. As I've already said, I've tried to stick to the edges, nuke from the bushes and hide behind the crowd. But when Rogues are one-shotting you in the GY, I don't care how good you are, you're going to get frustrated.
Hope I've addressed everything, let me know if not. I want to try and not be an arse with those who have explained their points fairly :)
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MrSCH
@Hzle - that's a horrible company ethos. Please don't ever start one. Without us, there would be no Blizzard. Of course they have to justify their actions.
No, no they don't. Read the ToS. Blizzard can do whatever the hell they want, it doesn't matter if each one of the 12 million players disagree, ultimately, it's Blizzard's choice.
I guess this is a what they can do=/= what they do kind of scenario.
If they wanted to, they could pull the plug right now. But, they won't, it makes them money.
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capitao
Instead of hammering the OP, why don't we focus on the complaint at hand?
I actually agree with what he is saying. Rogues are ridiculous one-shotting people with ambush. It takes all the fun of the BGs away and I had hoped they would tune Ambush damage in the patch. I know some classes have always been better at BGs, specially at lower levels (Hunters at 10-19 comes to mind. With Disengage at level 16 now...god help us), but when you can't overcome the other class by any means of skill it's just ridiculous.
I have this Enh Shaman with full heirlooms (except for the ring - they might not be showing, since I was toying with an undead hunter)
leveling exclusively through BGs. I played on the twinks BGs for a while, but the 2h long queues made me go back and I've even gotten the Wrecking Ball achievement (20 kills no deaths), so I'm not completely clueless. I walk around with a shield equipped. I kite Warriors and Pallies to kill them, since they outdamage me at close range. But still, with full heirlooms and a shield, lesser geared rogues one-shot me with their Ambush and 180242% crit chance (if they don't, they press the next key on their keyboard and finish the job).
I pity the Alliance side when Goblins hit. If rogues continue like this, I bet they'll have a lot of fun facing 20 rogues on BGs.
Edit:
Shamy armory
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Pwntiff
There will never be level-cap style balance at lower levels. At the top, they can tweak numbers and spells, because they know everyone competing will have all of their available spells. When you start dealing with lower levels, you can run into several problems.
Classes won't have as many other options if
x
is nerfed.
Classes may lose viability in PvE.
The lower level players may become even more of a liability.
Just be glad the twinks are gone.
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MrSCH
There will never be level-cap style balance at lower levels. At the top, they can tweak numbers and spells, because they know everyone competing will have all of their available spells. When you start dealing with lower levels, you can run into several problems.
Classes won't have as many other options if
x
is nerfed.
Classes may lose viability in PvE.
The lower level players may become even more of a liability.
Just be glad the twinks are gone.
I see your point.
But twinks aren't really gone! I remember playing when they were around, and heirloomed Rogues and Hunters are still totally as powerful.
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MrSCH
My English is very good, I won't lie. I've made one mistake; I've used 'do' instead of 'does'. And somehow that's me 'butchering' the English language? Forgive me, but that's bull*!@#.
I refrained from saying that you "butchered" the English language because you only made the mistake of "do" instead of "does". I was mostly getting at the fact that you defended your mistake after being called out on it with the bull*!@# logic that it "sounded better".
On topic: They don't have to "justfiy it", it's their game.
I admitted I was wrong and believed everyone, just didn't feel like changing it. It's not like I said 'I'm right stfu'. At first I was, so I asked nicely and got my answer :)
and about that last point I know they don't have to. I don't have to go to uni, technically, but if I don't I fail. Again, what you have to do =/= what you should do.
Post by
Magician22773
I will try to sum up what others have said in a civil manner for ya.
Get your gear and spec right, as best ya can. Not saying you have to be twinked to the max, but at least get all slots filled, and with proper gear for your spec. Glyph and spec for PvP, focusing on anything that stuns, snares, or silences.
Yep, rogues are OP, pretty much always have been, probably always will be. Be prepared for em. Have a PvP trink and Barkskin ready to go, and keep your eyes peeled. Hang back, try to be defensive rather than offensive.
If all else fails, you are playing a low bracket, so swapping classes isn't horribly difficult. Roll a rouge, or better yet, roll a rogue killer..(i.e. Pally)
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