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apvalceanu
Believe it or not (insert joke plz - if i would manage to meet Aestu's standards) i think i would very much enjoy it. :) who knows.
I don't have anything against Aestu or anyone here. The essence of his post stand true (imo)... i just find that on the margins of that he tends to take some things a bit to the extreme :P Hence a lot of my posts to "fight back", NOT the essence of what he said, but those small spikes that protrude... Example:
Aestu: - any mob that is not on that tank at any time is ALWAYS that tank's fault. (he sometimes says "period" here :P)
Me - agree to that 90 or even 99% of the time, but every now and then (rare i must say) someone acts so stupid in pulls or whatever in the group; to blame the tank for this is a bit absurd imo. Again this is the exception, the rule being indeed what Aestu said; it's just that his post seems not to leave room for these exceptions. Thats the part i "fight back". Oh, Aestu - please let's not start another discussion - i understood by now your point of view, and unless you and me play together for at least 1 heroic i admit i cannot disprove you, but feel the same time my argument stands as well. At any time that someone will prove any part of this, i will gladly submit.
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apvalceanu
Need to say 1 thing (thinking Aestu will also agree) - i CANNOT (or will not) ask of others what i cannot provide myself. I cannot ask for 5500 gs, achievements or any such thing unless i also have them, and if everyone in the raid is "new" the chance of it going bad rises. I would feel a bit hypocritical (hope i'm using this word correctly) if i did ask for them...
Your idea otherwise is not a bad one :)
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apvalceanu
I'm sure you are right with 1st phrase. As for second - what made you think i was a healer? :P My best geared char is a druid, but while she is dual spec, the best gear is tanking gear. Also i would think if anything - if t would be a lot easier to go as healer for a first time here... why would you think people would avoid inviting a healer? Compared to other classes who, imo, need to know mechanics better.
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apvalceanu
As a healer in ICC, you pretty much...stand there and heal.
I would care much more about bringing inexperienced DPS and tanks
DPS, however...must learn all the finer points of maximizing DPS in ICC - how to move, what and when to DPS, how not to get in the way of others. Healers? Not so much...This is exactly why i said Also i would think if anything - it would be a lot easier to go as healer for a first time here... why would you think people would avoid inviting a healer? Compared to other classes who, imo, need to know mechanics better.
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Baalah
How to get 5.9k GS without raiding;
1. Do heroics
2. Buy T10 or 264
3. ?
4. Profit!
Holy pally?
1. Do PvP
2. Buy 1h and Shield
3. ?
4. Profit!
Tanking in ICC is oversimplified.
It is, but learning how to lead a raid is hard and you need to be a good tank to do heroics to get geared for raids. Tanking 5m instances is a lot harder than tanking raids, the exception to that is trash mobs because everyone is doing 15k AoE dps.
I can't comment on healing however since I've only healed a few bosses on my priest, and those were only the ones where 3 healers were needed.
Healing is difficult to measure, it's either a pushover or a real challenge. Just because you do more healing spamming your cheapest cast than the guy spamming his highest one doesn't mean you're a better healer. You might be causing the raid healer to do overheal while the other guy is saving people on 5k hp, which when everyone piles on 1 person is a lot of overheal.
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fuhrerschein
you need to be a good tank to do heroics
lolwut
Post by
storyr
you need to be a good tank to do heroics
lolwut
agreed. Even before the stam buff in 4.0 with a good healer I could tank heroics on my mage...
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Zakkhar
As a healer in ICC, you pretty much...stand there and heal.
Things that may go wrong with this (as a noob healer in icc):
running like a madman during marrowgar bone storm and getting charged every single time
no dispelling on Lady, standing at ghosts
getting out of range of jump tank on funship
not dispelling properly on rotface
mishandling spores on fester (unless you just stand in melee)
continous DISPELLING abom tank on PP, not running away/hugging the slimes, standing in goo
getting knocked back by vortexes on princes resulting in getting out of range of healed targets
screwing positioning of shadows, killing people who have pact, mishandling air phase by hugging people on BQ
completely not being able to do portal healing, getting oom due to spamming too much on raid healing on dreamwalker
wiping group with misplacement of ice tombs on sindragosa
wiping group with defile, not hugging at valkyrs, facing raging spirits, not adjusting to tank switches on soul reaper on LK
So its not exactly you just stand and heal. You stand heal and use your brain, while having any boss mods running.
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Thror
How I see you walking around in the game world.
Haha, i wonder how you would treat me. I tend to jump and do 720° turns while in the air quite often. When not fighting ofc. I find it annoying when someone keeps jumping during a fight.
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