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Squishalot
Presumably, when people talk about "only dating tall guys", it's still a choice. I don't think love factors in at that point. Girl meets two random guys at a nightclub, one short, one tall. Girl flirts with the tall guy. There's no love there yet.
I was in love the second I saw my current girlfriend. Whether you call it love or attraction, it's not a choice.
I'm not saying it's not a possibility. I'm saying that it doesn't account for
the majority
a lot of cases that exist. You can use the same arguement that being repulsed by people and pushing them away isn't by choice either.
It would help if society got rid of the taboos about short guys ie the Napolean complex.
It's not a taboo, it's a stereotype, and there are plenty about all sorts of people, not just short people. We stereotype white Christian males, for example, as MyTie will be happy to tell you.
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Hyperspacerebel
I'm not saying it's not a possibility. I'm saying that it doesn't account for
the majority
a lot of cases that exist. You can use the same arguement that being repulsed by people and pushing them away isn't by choice either.
Being repulsed by isn't a choice, but pushing them away is.
I honestly have no idea what your experiences are, but you're honestly able to choose what you're repulsed by?
Where a short guy is perceived to act tough to overcompensate for his short height. Its not a personal feeling for said person it is society's generalization of his actions.
So you're saying inferiority complexes are just made up?
So you're not attracted to some people more than others right off the bat?That does not make it love...
Whether you call it love or attraction, it's not a choice.
...
Post by
Squishalot
Being repulsed by isn't a choice, but pushing them away is.
I honestly have no idea what your experiences are, but you're honestly able to choose what you're repulsed by?
That's my point.
In
Directly, rejection of someone's love is inherently pushing them away. It's their right to, certainly, but it's little different in choice or in action to pushing someone away from your friendship.
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324987
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Squishalot
vlklngboy11 said:
Where a short guy is perceived to act tough to overcompensate for his short height. Its not a personal feeling for said person it is society's generalization of his actions.
So you're saying inferiority complexes are just made up?
No I was explaining napoleon complex because you seemed to not understand it.
Hyper is questioning whether you think there's a basis for that perception.
Typically, stereotypes have a lot of basis in fact.
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Hyperspacerebel
No I was explaining napoleon complex because you seemed to not understand it.
But you screwed up the explanation of it. So do you even understand it?
It exists in the person, not in society.
That's my point.
In
Directly, rejection of someone's love is inherently pushing them away. It's their right to, certainly, but it's little different in choice or in action to pushing someone away from your friendship.
But that has nothing to do with what I said. You just uttered a bunch of truisms as far as I'm concerned.
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Hyperspacerebel
Hyper is questioning whether you think there's a basis for that perception. I do not know the basis of that perception because I do not agree with that perception.
Okay, since you're not making any sense, I'll ask you a question.
Bob is 6 feet tall and hates short people. Fred is 4 feet tall and also hates short people (and hates being short because of it). Who has the Napoleon Complex?
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Adamsm
Bob is 6 feet tall and hates short people. Fred is 4 feet tall and also hates short people (and hates being short because of it). Who has the Napoleon Complex? Neither, the Napolean Complex is thought to be short guys overcompensating for their shortness it has nothing to do about anyone hating anyone.
So....are you a true proof of the complex then Viking? As you seem to think, that due to your shortness, you'll never get anywhere in life, and to make up for it, you seem intent on slapping down any arguments that disagree with your view point?
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Hyperspacerebel
Bob is 6 feet tall and hates short people. Fred is 4 feet tall and also hates short people (and hates being short because of it). Who has the Napoleon Complex? Neither, the Napolean Complex is thought to be short guys overcompensating for their shortness it has nothing to do about anyone hating anyone.
Compensation: a mechanism by which an individual attempts to make up for some real or imagined
deficiency
of personality or behavior by developing or stressing another aspect of the personality or by substituting a different form of behavior.
So if you're making up for a deficiency, it's because you don't like said deficiency.
The answer is Fred. Your explanation above would point at Bob, which is incorrect.
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Post by
Squishalot
That's my point.
In
Directly, rejection of someone's love is inherently pushing them away. It's their right to, certainly, but it's little different in choice or in action to pushing someone away from your friendship.
But that has nothing to do with what I said. You just uttered a bunch of truisms as far as I'm concerned.
You're arguing that rejection in relationships isn't a choice and is therefore 'protected' from the discrimination tag, but rejection in friendships is a choice. I'm saying that they're one and the same.
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Hyperspacerebel
...but what I am saying is for example if a short guy acts tough
it is thought that
because
he is overcompensating for his shortness
so
he has Napoleon Complex.
Fixed.
You're arguing that rejection in relationships isn't a choice
Source?
Post by
kattib
Once again I must state, in relationships people can be as PICKY as they want. It allows people to only date those they are attracted to and want to date. It would be a bad thing if you were forced to date anyone who was attracted to you, wouldnt that suck.
Sorry but you are just going to have to get over it
Post by
Squishalot
You're arguing that rejection in relationships isn't a choice
Source?
People have a right to discriminate when if comes to their own feelings.
Real discrimination (the bad kind) is with actions.
how is discriminating (in relationships) different to discriminating (in friendships)?
Because
being friends with someone is a choice, falling in love is not
.
Bolded for emphasis. Unless I'm grossly misinterpreting what you're saying, in which case, I invite you to re-demonstrate your point to me.
The only way I can reconcile all your statements is if disliking someone for being short is acceptable, but rejecting their advances is not.
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I don't know how you can pull "rejection" out of
feelings
and
love
.
In fact, the very thing you quoted contradicts what you claim I'm arguing.
You're arguing that rejection in relationships isn't a choice
being friends with someone is a choice
How can being friends (a type of relationship) be a choice but not be at the same time?
What point do you want me to make...I can't really say it any clearer than you quoted it.
...but what I am saying is for example if a short guy acts tough it is thought that because he is overcompensating for his shortness so he has Napoleon Complex. You are adding to the stereotype that it actually exits... I am saying it is not different than a tall guy doing the same and does not exist.
I'm not talking about a stereotype, so what you just said means nothing to me.
And how can a tall guy overcompensate for shortness? ....
He's tall!
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