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338102
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Valoras
blood elf druids? (i can imagine them being more concerned about not breaking a nail rather than partaking into the wild)
There are times when a persons ignorance simply makes me want to grab them by the neck and repeatedly punch/slap them.. Maybe you should take a trip to Arcatraz over in Netherstorm? For the record, there Are BE druids. You know where BE's came from at least, don't you?
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Valoras
The major beef I have with people arguing about Undead having paladins is the whole "They cant have palies cuz palies follow the light!"
Yea ok... well so do priests, and the undead have priests. Granted, undead Priests follow a corrupted version of the "light", but the fact is they Still have priests.. Why cant they do the same thing for Paladins?
And dont even try giving me that "Palies are more attuned to the light" BS..
Post by
crsh1976
The major beef I have with people arguing about Undead having paladins is the whole "They cant have palies cuz palies follow the light!"
Yea ok... well so do priests, and the undead have priests. Granted, undead Priests follow a corrupted version of the "light", but the fact is they Still have priests.. Why cant they do the same thing for Paladins?
And dont even try giving me that "Palies are more attuned to the light" BS..
To mention there are Scourge paladin-like mobs in Icecrown (reanimated crusaders, or something close to that), with paladin abilities renamed for flavor like Unholy Light and Hammer of Injustice.
There's that whole "paladins can't die to the plague of undeath" thing that's supposed to prevent having Scourge/Forsaken paladins, despite that Crusader Bridenbrad storyline in Icecrown.
Caveat: it's unclear whether he dies of the plague, or rather if he dies from his combat wounds ; A'dal however appears to intervene to spare him the fate of being raised as Scourge (which isn't supposed to be possible since he's a pally).
Post by
Haxzor
The major beef I have with people arguing about Undead having paladins is the whole "They cant have palies cuz palies follow the light!"
Yea ok... well so do priests, and the undead have priests. Granted, undead Priests follow a corrupted version of the "light", but the fact is they Still have priests.. Why cant they do the same thing for Paladins?
And dont even try giving me that "Palies are more attuned to the light" BS..
In lore, Undead Priests actually draw their power from the Shadow side of things. Seeing as how 'The Light' burns them.
It's a gameplay mechanic that they can be holy and disc
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Itami
A Hero Remains
"I carry the plague of undeath, <class>, and I'll not share my fate with those near me. No, I shall stay here."
I don't know where you got the idea that paladins are somehow immune to the plague but it's not true.
Most undead lose touch with Light and nature based magics by being undead. Those that don't are burned by the Light when they try to wield it. Paladin abilities are largely holy magic in nature and thus would be incredibly difficult and painful for an undead to wield without doing great damage to themselves.
And if you're going to next bring up the Scarlet Onslaught's apparent immunity to the Forsaken Blight(which isn't the same as the plague of undeath) they came up with a new prayer (and it was likely supplied by Mal'Ganis) to specifically ward against the Blight. It isn't being paladins that makes them immune but careful and well prepared precautionary measures.
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Monday
Undead Paladins make perfect sense. There were human paladins, so what would change after they become undead? Now, the idea of the Forsaken doesn't leave much room for Paladins, but just being undead shouldn't matter. I'm happy with what's out and what is changing in Cata.
GAAAAAAAAAAAAH *FROTHING NERDRAGE*
Undead Paladins make NO sense. Being undead does matter, as utilizing the Light while being dead
burns you and causes incredible pain
.
Forsaken Paladins don't exist. Paladins use spells made specifically to
fight undead
. There can't be Forsaken paladins, aka undead paladins using powers to kill undead. Doesn't work.
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Valoras
Excuse me? i meant to do this lore wise, not gameplay wise, and i was not aware there was belf druids in arcatraz, but the i havent been in there a long deal of time ago, plus
i am not denying their existance per se
, pretty much as the undead paladin npc, they can exist!, but i meant into the MAIN role of a character, i am pretty sure blizz could even make a tauren rogue npc and people would go ballyhoo over it, yet that wouldnt mean to be meant as playable! and yes i am well aware of the war of the ancients, the sundering, and the high elves and how they became blood elfs, and their alliance to the horde.
sincerely i dont understand your QQ
You obviously don't understand a lot more then that. According To LORE.. Blood elves are former High elves. High Elves are former Night Elves. Both Night elves and High elves have Druids. Blood elves also have druids, they are however Greatly frowned upon by the current Blood Elves, and generally expelled from BE culture. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but I do know a lot of players dislike this ideal, and Want there to be Playable BE druids.
Also, it is generally accepted that most of the Defias brotherhood are Rogues. Mr. Smite is a member of the Defias Brotherhood. Of course their are also Mages and warlocks in the Defias, but I didn't see Smite throwing out any fireballs.
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crsh1976
I don't know where you got the idea that paladins are somehow immune to the plague but it's not true.
Paladins were immune to the original plague (as well as all diseases), at least as far as the lore goes; the new plague developed by the Royal Apothecary/Putress' merry band of scientists worked around that (Bolvar fell to it), and possibly the Scourge improved theirs as well.
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Itami
I don't know where you got the idea that paladins are somehow immune to the plague but it's not true.
Paladins were immune to the original plague (as well as all diseases), at least as far as the lore goes; the new plague developed by the Royal Apothecary/Putress' merry band of scientists worked around that (Bolvar fell to it), and possibly the Scourge improved theirs as well.
Source? I've never heard of this immunity until today. Resistance to disease sure, but the plague of undeath is no ordinary illness.
Though I would not doubt the Scourge have been improving it to better kill people and make ghouls.
Capcha: his honfie.... wtf?
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Atik
I don't know where you got the idea that paladins are somehow immune to the plague but it's not true.
Paladins were immune to the original plague (as well as all diseases), at least as far as the lore goes; the new plague developed by the Royal Apothecary/Putress' merry band of scientists worked around that (Bolvar fell to it), and possibly the Scourge improved theirs as well.
Source? I've never heard of this immunity until today. Resistance to disease sure, but the plague of undeath is no ordinary illness.
Though I would not doubt the Scourge have been improving it to better kill people and make ghouls.
Capcha: his honfie.... wtf?
I would have to dig up the exact source. But the second you say "Undead Pally" on an RP server or the L&RP forum it will be brought up.
Although, for all intents and purpuses, Icecrown's opening quest pretty much debunked it.
A Forsaken Paladin would need to either be an 'anti' Paladin, wielding some sort of corrupt light, or they would need to train for years to resist the pain.
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cparle87
There is one other thing about undead Paladins. What about Sir Zeliek of the Four Horsemen. If you'd read his wowwiki page, it said he was a Paladin of such goodness and nobility in life, that the Light continues to serve him in death. Even though his body obeys the Lich King, his mind and will were too strong to overcome.
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Fingulfin
The major beef I have with people arguing about Undead having paladins is the whole "They cant have palies cuz palies follow the light!"
Yea ok... well so do priests, and the undead have priests. Granted, undead Priests follow a corrupted version of the "light", but the fact is they Still have priests.. Why cant they do the same thing for Paladins?
Because there are ZERO undead holy/disc priests. All forsaken priests are shadow priests, drawing upon vampiric energies and shadow magic.
Sir Zeliek is an incredible abnormality.
Also, it is generally accepted that most of the Defias brotherhood are Rogues. Mr. Smite is a member of the Defias Brotherhood. Of course their are also Mages and warlocks in the Defias, but I didn't see Smite throwing out any fireballs.
What the hell are you on about? Just because some Defias are rogues does not mean that ALL defias are rogues. Defias have
Mages
(
2
,
3
),
Warlocks
and countless unspecialized peons. Mr Smite is a warrior, not a rogue. Similarly, the Kirin'tor are a mage organization. That means nothing though, as they also incorporate
warlocks
and
warriors
into their ranks.
Blood elves also have druids
Screenshot or it didn't happen.
Post by
Adamsm
The major beef I have with people arguing about Undead having paladins is the whole "They cant have palies cuz palies follow the light!"
Yea ok... well so do priests, and the undead have priests. Granted, undead Priests follow a corrupted version of the "light", but the fact is they Still have priests.. Why cant they do the same thing for Paladins?
Because there are ZERO undead holy/disc priests. All forsaken priests are shadow priests, drawing upon vampiric energies and shadow magic.
Sir Zeliek is an incredible abnormality.Not anymore he's not; there was a blue a while ago that said if the Forsaken has the willpower, they can use the Light....but it still burns them and causes damage.
Blood elves also have druids
Screenshot or it didn't happen.
Guessing you skipped all the BC stuff.
Post by
xlanadenx
sincerely i dont understand your QQ
To some people, lore is srs bsns.
You just happened to step on the toes of someone who holds such things sacred.
I like the lore but I wouldn't go so far as to rip your throat out for being "ignorant."
Some people just need to chill out. After all, it is a fictional story.
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