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Level as arcane, frost, or fire and why
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nickseng
Fire until 15
Frost until 35
Arcane until 51
Fire until 52
Arcane until 64
Frost until 78
Fire until 89
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Phaleux
You get Ice Lance at 28, and can get Fingers of Frost starting at 29. At that point it's never just frostbolt frostbolt again.
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nickseng
Thanks im arcane and at level 23 and luv it but i think ima respec to frost or fire bcuz arcane is either 11112 if arcane missles procs or 11113 if AM doesn't can u post some builds for me?
You're trying to apply a raid rotation to levelling?
/facepalm
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woohaa
Thanks im arcane and at level 23 and luv it but i think ima respec to frost or fire bcuz arcane is either 11112 if arcane missles procs or 11113 if AM doesn't can u post some builds for me?
with that change to arcane missiles, you kind of see the same type of playstyle in the other specs. you fish for procs and use said proc when it happens. frost you get a pet and will probably see more crits. Fire has alot more fun aoe but single target rotation feels like arcanes 11112.
i'd just say try them out figure out which one you have the most fun with. i have duel spec for the hell of it so i can switch around when i get bored.
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Carukia
Fire until 15
Frost until 35
Arcane until 51
Fire until 52
Arcane until 64
Frost until 78
Fire until 89
I agree with these, except I'd probably say Frost until 77 instead of 78
You forgot about that talent you get at 78 that lets you do .01% more DPS. That's essential to the frost spec.
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Post by
StrangerWifCandy
I'd go with frost. The water elemental not only does damage at no mana cost to you, but provides an extra root, and you can use it to tank extra mobs while you focus another down. The utility it provides is very useful.
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Nathanyal
Was leveling at frost prior to 4.0.1, but when the patch hit my dmg went through the floor. Obviously AoE was nerfed with Blizzard being moved to a higher level (I was around 44, so lost it), but I found my single target dmg had dropped massively as well. Maybe I was doing it wrong, but I don't know.
So I switched to arcane and obviously the AoE still isn't there but at least the single target damage is good again. Not sure if it is competitive with how frost was pre-4.0.1, but in a post-4.0.1 world in the mid-40s arcane is doing about 3 times more dmg for me than frost. Frost in 4.0.1 was coming last in dungeon dmg meters, in Arcane I come first again.
Pre-4.0.1 frost was mainly used for leveling until about 64/68, whichever allowed the mage to learn arcane barrage. After that arcane was used until/after you hit level 80 and then fire once you got enough crit on your gear. Frost was also useful for AoE grinding exp/items and for PvP.
Frost, like it usually has been, is used to survive more then dealing damage. The use of shields and snaring effects helped promote this idea. Which is why its good to level at lower levels, and good to PvP with.
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karlusdavius
I'd say frost. Having the ele from the start with freeze is brilliant and once you get FoF you are flying. It's hugely mana efficient and you will struggle to go OOM while questing or when in a random.
Think of the energiser bunnies, thats you, with less fur (Dwarfs excluded)
The rotation is very simple and you have a lot of abilities that allow you to control the situation if things get out of hand.
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Jacmac
Listen to the guys leveling a mage right now. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those that leveled their mages before 4 came out. The outlook on leveling in one spec or another greatly depends on your style of play. Random dungeon groups vs solo aoe during the leveling phases are different animals. One guy giving you advice might be great for groups, but totally sucks for solo.
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Wreaker06
I'm leveling a mage atm, i have duel spec and i just hit lvl 50, i use frost for questing and arcane for bg's, it works fine, also frost/arcane in dungeons i get more or less the same dps on bosses
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