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Post by
Garenzo
Really? I don't see a single class having a level 85 abillity as "cool" as camouflage...
Dark Simulacrum is both infinitely more "cool" and also significantly more
useful
than Failuflage.
&*!@, I'd much rather even have Leap of Faith. I'd honestly rather just not have a level 85 ability altogether.
All the other class forums (not wowhead) have people complaining about the same thing... Rogues think smoke cloud sucks, warriors think heroic leap sucks, druids think wild mushrooms sucks, priests think leap sucks etc...
Just be satisfied with the skill you get. If you're that offended for getting one of the best looking skills in the game then just pretend you didn't get any new spell like you said you wanted... This is also a completely game breaking skill for soloing. (right now I'm pretty sure you can walk right through mobs since you're untargetable but can see that being changed to make mobs treat it like stealth)
Also as for Dark Simulacrum; It won't be anywhere near as interesting as it is in beta right now. They've said it will only be able to copy buffs that can be dispelled, and offensive spells/heals. (no pets, seals and such like right now) It's basically a spell reflect/spellsteal and guess what, it's also situational.
This seems to be little more than a case of "the grass is always greener on the other side". I'd say you should try another character since you're making it blatantly obvious that you don't like playing a hunter.
Post by
Rilgon
I like playing a Hunter.
I don't like playing the !@#$ty, pathetic abomination that Cataclysm "Hunters" are.
But you are a troll, so.
Post by
leuitinet
Ril, you've been thru alot as a Hunter. the nerf, the buffs, the QQ from other classes resulting in nerfs. We are going to get an 85 spell... What would you rather us have?
Post by
Rilgon
Maybe another offensive cooldown, perhaps? Something that lets us shoot in melee range for a short period of time on a short-ish cooldown? Something useful in PVE altogether?
It's the same issue we had with Freezing Arrow (which, ironic, they're removing it). Compare Freezing Arrow to Army of the Dead, Fan of Knives, the Hymns, Mirror Images, etc.
Compare Camouflage (it looks cool and has minor PVP utility) to basically every other level 85 ability and they all carry some sort of PVE utility save maybe Heroic Leap, which kinda got the Camo treatment (they took the +Damage boost off Camo and the auto-Thunder Clap off Heroic Leap). Like I said, I'd even have Leap of Faith - an ability that's really only useful when someone &*!@s up - than Camo, since at least Leap of Faith is useful SOMETIMES.
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Post by
leuitinet
Ril you sound like me. I would like to see something more in the melee range. I love to use my melee attacks, and its amazing how effective they are. I think that Camo+melee attack combos would be cool. That would give Camo some better utility. As for PvE, I think it would help with placement. As to avoid mobs and such. Think. Eyes of the Beast and Camo... great for scouting
Post by
Garenzo
That being said, with regard to camouflage: Oooh Shiny! If only it was as effective as it is cool looking.
From a PvP point of view I'm not sure how it isn't effective, there's a lot of things packed into that spell. Invisibility while standing still, makes you hard to see (and untargetable...) while moving, has a short cooldown and can be refreshed by feigning... And using traps won't break it. (then again, apparently I'm a troll so maybe I'm not allowed to state my opinion)
Not PvP related, but
I'll just leave this here
. :-) Looks fun to me.
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512617
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Post by
Garenzo
Well if they let it work similar to how it is on beta right now, it will be incredible for soloing things if that counts. (as shown in the video by the way)
Post by
Rilgon
Not PvP related, but
I'll just leave this here
. :-) Looks fun to me.
Yay. Things that you can basically already do with FD, minus the whole "FD and Camo your pet out of combat" thing.
What a wonderful level 85 ability. It's so much better than stealing basically any spell in the game, which GC has said they intend to allow as many as possible via Dark Simulacrum.
My mind is completely changed. /eyeroll
Post by
Garenzo
Not PvP related, but
I'll just leave this here
. :-) Looks fun to me.
Yay. Things that you can basically already do with FD, minus the whole "FD and Camo your pet out of combat" thing.
What a wonderful level 85 ability. It's so much better than stealing basically any spell in the game, which GC has said they intend to allow as many as possible via Dark Simulacrum.
My mind is completely changed. /eyeroll
I'm not trying to change your mind or anything... just posted another video of Camouflage since this thread is about, well... videos of camouflage.
I don't see how the two skills have anything to do with each other since Dark Simulacrum is a DK skill and Camouflage is a hunter one, but anyways - not much else to discuss. I think it looks like a fun skill and you don't, let's leave it at that.
Post by
571648
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Post by
HoleofArt
There. Now stop complaining
We're inmune to hunter traps and most of the things.
Happy now?
It's fine. I'm happy with it.
Most hunters are happy with it.
The Hunters who don't do anything successful in this game are the ones happy with it.
The end-game raiders/smart Hunters are not.
See the trend here?
Post by
Lorkin
I wouldn't call it completely useless for PvE. I use to solo stealth my way through dungeons back in vanilla to farm specific items. The
plans
for the Arcanite Reaper come to mind was something I farmed with my rogue for some quick cash. We'd be able to almost "stealth" our way through dungeons hopefully and do the same things rogues and feral druids can.
Wow, according to that video it's better than stealth. You can walk right through the mobs, instead of having to sneak around. Amazing. It's like a mini paladin bubble + stealth combined, which doesn't put you in combat.
Question is how do you break someone out of camo? I heard a melee attack would do it, but did they change that?
Post by
HoleofArt
Wow, according to that video it's better than stealth. You can walk right through the mobs, instead of having to sneak around. Amazing. It's like a mini paladin bubble + stealth combined, which doesn't put you in combat.
Question is how do you break someone out of camo? I heard a melee attack would do it, but did they change that?
Any AoE (including Cleaves/Channeled), melee attacks, or you doing damage.
And seeing as how every class now but Hunters have some sort of AoE they can use whenever, it isn't too hard to get us.
Definitely not a mini Paladin bubble.
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571648
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Post by
HoleofArt
There. Now stop complaining
We're inmune to hunter traps and most of the things.
Happy now?
It's fine. I'm happy with it.
Most hunters are happy with it.
The Hunters who don't do anything successful in this game are the ones happy with it.
The end-game raiders/smart Hunters are not.
See the trend here?
I'm sorry but I got LK's 25man kill after 6 months of work
And I got my battlemaster title after 5 months of work
Please, don't judge or you will be judged
.
Fenrir your Hunter doesn't exist.
Sorry. All you have is a custom profile of your Hunter in almost full BiS gear.. but the gems are complete $%^&.
There is no BE Hunter on the EU or USA realms at level 80 named Fenrir, and if there is, he doesn't have anything you "claim" to have. I'm calling you a fake.
Post by
Rilgon
There. Now stop complaining
We're inmune to hunter traps and most of the things.
Happy now?
Good thing that doesn't fly directly against what Ghostcrawler said the ability would do (prevent being targeted, but break on AoEs against you). Oh. Wait.
It's fine. I'm happy with it.
Most hunters are happy with it.Most Hunters are idiots, too.
You guys can't really change anything
When people actually belive that they have any influence over blizzard, they're so wrong.
No, I can't, but I can express my opinion about the second worthless level-cap ability in a row in as many expansions.
We have the trap launcher, isn't that an awesome skill?
No, not really.
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571648
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Post by
HoleofArt
Fenrir your Hunter doesn't exist.
Sorry. All you have is a custom profile of your Hunter in almost full BiS gear.. but the gems are complete $%^&.
There is no BE Hunter on the EU or USA realms at level 80 named Fenrir, and if there is, he doesn't have anything you "claim" to have. I'm calling you a fake.
I stopped playing like 7 months ago.
I tried to get back to playing but my account got hacked. Dind't even bothered on getting it back.
If you quit 7 months ago there's no way you have half the achievements or gear you claim you do, seeing as how the World First kill by Paragon was on March 26th.
Hell, if you even quit 4 months ago there's still a ridiculously small chance. I say this because I seriously doubt you were within the first 25 Heroic 25m LK kills. Also, the guild you claim your Hunter was in doesn't exist either.
How far back does the Armory track before no longer showing people from inactivity? Is it 3 months or 6?
Also, no. I'm not in the beta, sadly. (h8 u Rilgon <3)
Either way, I'd say I know my class well enough to be able to publicly voice my opinion while providing a good reason to listen to it.
*hint hint*
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