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Arp Arp Arp! Another BiS Kitty Post
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132589
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Post by
Capnboomkin
Once you're crit capped, you'll want to gem for Strength.
CAPTCHA: birth prophesy
Post by
Aadramelekh
Since expertise is covered almost entirely by gear, I think Primal Precision may be skipped. Do some testing and see what results you get. Anyway, it is a class mechanic that part of the energy spent on missed attacks is refunded so... Bottom line, go ahead and use those 2 points from Primal Precision elsewhere. See what happens. Respec again if necessary. It's not such a big deal for a few gold anyway.
You are at the ArP hard cap and most likely hovering around the crit cap. If you ask me, strength becomes a very good option for improving stats. 1 point of strength grants nearly 2.88 AP with talents and external buffs such as Blessing of Kings and +10% AP aura (like the one provided by hunters). That's bloody powerful if you ask me. But also haste becomes a great stat, boosting melee damage and slightly increasing the proc rate of Omen of Clarity.
Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder is an excellent chest piece no matter how you look at it. The amount of hit and expertise provided is simply too nice to pass up. It is probably the favorite chest piece of most leather armor users in Tier 10 content. Even over the class specific Tier 10 chest pieces.
Long story short, your profile looks great: the spec isn't much to discuss (play with Primal Precision as you see fit, test it and make a decision) and the gear is the best you can obtain without using Heroic items.
Good luck ^_^
Post by
Falkor
isnt EJs BiS list...like....BiS? people always talkin bout their own bis when there already is one
another thing. 28% expertise or 28 expertise. the cap is what 26/27, what ever like 6.5% is....just to not get dodged. dont attack from the front and get parried therefor dont go for parry cap (HUGE waste of stats)
i wouldnt take a sack of wonder. too much hit and expertise
& once you're at all the caps then go for str or haste. str gives a lot of AP and haste gives more white dps + more OoC
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Post by
curlymon
another thing. 28% expertise or 28 expertise. the cap is what 26/27, what ever like 6.5% is....just to not get dodged. dont attack from the front and get parried therefor dont go for parry cap (HUGE waste of stats)
28% Exp: Capped with some to spare HOWEVER ...
This is with only 1 point in
Primal Precision
, so that leaves a single talent point spare to slot anywhere you want ...
... Falkor
As for the EJ BiS list... not sure you understand that the amount of stats present in the size of blocks that they appear on heroic gear as compared to non heroic gear can change an entire BiS gear list at times. Especially if you are toying with hard caps long before the heroic gear...
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132589
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Post by
curlymon
its 6% to not be dodged, fact, i meant 26! expertise rating and lastly
6.5 percent is correct as is 26, lol.
Details are what makes this fun though!
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476672
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Post by
Falkor
... Falkor
As for the EJ BiS list... not sure you understand that the amount of stats present in the size of blocks that they appear on heroic gear as compared to non heroic gear can change an entire BiS gear list at times. Especially if you are toying with hard caps long before the heroic gear...
EJ has heroic and non heroic BiS list. so get non heroic BiS then upgrade piece by piece? most of the gear, iirc, is just the direct ug from non heroic 264 to heroic 277. shouldnt be too much shuffling around in that case.
Falkor, its 6% to not be dodged, fact, i meant 26! expertise rating and lastly, who are you again 0o
who are you? you said 28% expertise, now "26!" expertise
rating
. theres a difference between expertise, expertise rating, and the % that you have. so pick one and stick with it, please.
Post by
pelf
No really, details would matter if i cared ;)
That's an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. Why would you be posting in here if you didn't care? Why should we care if you don't care?
Honestly, think before you use a dumb "I don't care." response to marginalize someone's position.
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132589
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Post by
Aadramelekh
You people are really funny.
Yunaleia's
questions were simple and clear. It was stated that there will be NO BLOODY HEROIC GEAR in the first place. So comments like "going into heroic gear your gemming, etc is going to change" are useless.
Also, nitpicking about
Yunaleia
writing "28% expertise" instead of "28 expertise", a simple typing error... Geez. Be more lame, please.
More, 2 agility? Oh my god, that's where a 200 DPS boost was hiding. Gimme a f*cking break!
And don't you people think she (I used this pronoun because
Yunaleia
sounds mostly as a female name to me)
knows
the importance of stats for cat DPS? "Stat Order should be ArP, Crit, Hit, Expertise, then Haste. Personally I feel haste is a better option over geming strength. More OoC procs = more shreds = faster cp generation = extra bites". While this is a pertinent suggestion (the one about haste), why did you have to remind the order of the DPS stats? O_o
Not taking the Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder... If she wants to try rolling without Primal Precision, then hit and expertise caps are pretty much mandatory from gear, unless the energy refund mechanic for special attacks (this may or may not include finishers as well, I don't know the exact details of it) such as Mangle, Rake and Shred works even without that talent (although the talent clearly states "finishing moves", which means Ferocious Bite and Rip, since Savage Roar cannot "miss"). I vote for getting it.
Keeping the two points in primal precision is one of the few really useful suggestions I found around here. Although given the amount of expertise and hit present on that gear setup, it's pretty much so and so. Use the talent, test. Don't use the talent, test again, extensively. See what the difference is and most important, see what is the behavior of special attacks and finishing moves when you still happen to *rarely* miss with them.
The "I don't care" response may have been harsh (oh, the drama!) but really... Do you think she asked these *general* questions because she wasn't sure about a difference of 2 agility or a bloody typo? I don't think so either. So yes, this kind of details are f*cking useless and uninteresting. Period.
Post by
Falkor
wanting to get BiS icc 25, then not going for heroic is stupid. what....is your guild just gonna give up and not try heroics? k....
saying 28% expertise, then 26! rating is kind of a stupid mistake. the dodge cap is 6.5% or 26 expertise or 132 expertise rating (with 2/2 PP)
in any case just go to EJ and look at the non heroic BiS list and see what you like. or mess with rawr.
dont wear the sack.
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132589
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Post by
bwirum
wanting to get BiS icc 25, then not going for heroic is stupid. what....is your guild just gonna give up and not try heroics? k....
Read his post again...
Post by
Falkor
I dont need to be berated by some trolling twirp who as far as I know hasnt shown any real promise as a feral commenter.
Until such times, anything you "tell" or "advise" me to do, you may as well not bother giving as I will have already done it.
Your opinion is noted, but your attitude needs work.
I made some typos, I admit that, some of my numbers were wrong, I admit that too, but I dont need to be told by some noob what I should do considering I have actual EXPERIENCE and the current gear to prove it.
Unless you want to show us your characters Falkor, Ill take my advice from people who actually know what they are %^&£ing about.
my armory has already been on multiple threads....you just sound like a whiny lil baby now (aka foley).
you made some large typos and errors. you're also an idiot. just look at the pre heroic BiS list and go from there. kay? problem solved. no jog on ya silly sod
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132589
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Post by
Falkor
when was the last time foley said something useful? link pls...cuz ive never seen it. dunno why you are riding his nuts.
fail on your part. "hey guise, whats per heroic BiS" oh i dunno, check EJ's pre heroic BiS list?
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