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Post by
Billop
Hey guys, wlel ive finally hit the big 5-0 as a feral druid. I just got mangle and im wondering what my rotation should be? Im getting annoyed as in Dungeons i rarely go above 4th in the DPS charts. If im really, really trying i can just about hit 3rd for about 10 seconds then get kicked back down.
Here are my talents
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZxGMcfrb0eRc0z
My Glyphs are:
Glyph of Mangle
,
Glyph of Maul
and
Glyph of Unburdened Rebirth
Post by
zkreso
Don't expect to top dps in 5mans at your level, or even at level 80. Kitty dps really only shines in a raid environment.
Post by
Badguy
Feral sucks very, very bad on short fights.
Post by
Billop
Aw damn, its getting annoying as im used to my Hunter who could take on level 58s when he was 50. Now this Kitty cant even take on a 55 without dieing.
Post by
Kciroj
Don't expect to top dps in 5mans at your level, or even at level 80. Kitty dps really only shines in a raid environment.
Feral sucks very, very bad on short fights.
Too much negativism here, and no constructive feedback.
You won't get Cat Swipe until lvl 71, so on more than three mobs you can't deal proper AE damage and almost all other classes, including tanks, easily outdamage you. Your most important tools right now will be Mangle and Rake. I'm not sure if Shred is worth using before Rend and Tear. Glyphed Mangle might just deal more damage/energy than Shred, for now at least.
I see you picked up
Protector of the Pack
over
Predatory Instincts
. You may have misunderstood that talent, as both the damage reduction and AP bonus are applied in Bear Form only. And now that you have Mangle it's time to go down the Resto tree (like
this
) to get Omen of Clarity. It's great!
With regards to zkreso's comment, cats can do just fine in heroics if played/geared correctly. You'll be spamming Swipe on trash most of the time, keeping up Savage Roar with 1-3 combo points from Mangle and/or Rake. On bosses you pop Berserk and top the charts.
Edited to add:
Aw damn, its getting annoying as im used to my Hunter who could take on level 58s when he was 50. Now this Kitty cant even take on a 55 without dieing.
Hunters are special, because shots can only miss but cannot be dodged or parried, and most importantly: no glancing blows. Also, you have a pet. As a cat you'll see a lot of dodge/parry/miss/glancing. Casters will see a large amount of resists. There's no point in killing mobs 5 levels above you anyway.
Post by
109094
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Post by
Kciroj
Even at the lower levels Mangle is outclassed by Shred (presuming ofc that you have Mangle on the target first and you have the Shredding Attacks talent).
Now I just have to quickly do the maths to be sure.
Mangle 200% * 1.2 (Savage Fury) * 1.1 (Glyph) / 40 Energy = 6.6% DpE
Shred 225% * 1.3 (Mangle) / 42 Energy = 7% DpE
So Shred deals about 6% more paw damage.
Strangely
Shred
gets less plus bonus damage than
Mangle
at level 50.
Mangle 198 * 1.2 * 1.1 / 40 = 6.5 DpE
Shred 144 * 1.3 / 42 = 187.2 = 4.5 DpE
In order to get a conclusion here I'd have to know how much paw damage a level 50 druid would do, though the difference can't be
that
large, right?
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109094
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Post by
Kutkh
Feral sucks very, very bad on short fights.
Switch to bear then
.
Post by
Kciroj
Your numbers are a little off (you got the right idea though)
Shred =
Mangle =
My first calculation ignored the static damage component, yes. Still you should always take energy cost into account, although the difference is small.
Mangle = (paw * 2 + 198) * 1.2 * 1.1 / 40
Shred = (paw * 2.25 + 144) * 1.3 / 42
Mangle = Shred, if paw = 570. That's quite a lot at lvl 50, right?
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109094
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Post by
Billop
Ha, thanks guys. I might do a respec then. Ive been told that Rake sucks by a few people, so i barely ever use it, is it good?
Ok, after a long look at the different talents ive come up with this tree, is this a good tree for my level?
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#0ZxGGcfrb0eR00z
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109094
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