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So You Want to Level a Rogue? (A Complete and Comprehensive Guide to Getting Your Rogue to 80)
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Post by
Lodureu
So shad, should I rip this guy apart or do you want the honors?
Wat? Go ahead :P
Post by
besaba
I think goshadstep2lose is a pretty cool guy. eh creates guieds and doesn't afraid of anything.
Mastur Cheef ftw? :D
I think i'm going to feed a troll here, but i don't know why someone would do all this effort just to troll. Well, here goes nothing.
Anyways, firstly... "
79
" Why there's no
Master of Deception
? Why spec subtlety without that talent... Or
Cheat Death
? Ooor, i don't know, Heightened Senses? If i'd spec subtlety while leveling, i would be running BG's all the time, and these three talents are very useful.
Then, lets see your
Combat spec
... Noone really uses Riposte. Waste of talent points. And you definetly want to pick up Imp. Slice and Dice for combat spec. Unfair advantage doesn't seem so smart either, since most of leveling nowdays happens by running LFD, and you ain't getting any hit as a DPS --> you won't be dodging any attacks either.
Then to see your
Assassination build
..... I don't know where to start.... Well, when you hit lvl 52 and get envenom, you won't be using eviscerate, so no need to spec imp. eviscerate, and the glyph of eviscerate is useless too, pick up glyph of vigor for example. Envenom ignores armor, and when specced Cut to the Chase, you'll be using the first combo points to slice and dice, and then just spam mutilate & envenom. And since you've picked up mutilate, why not spec puncturing wounds? And you don't want to pick up improved kidney shot, it's pretty much useless... I could go on and on but i just don't think it would be worth the effort.
This guide seems to be pretty much "how to fail as a rogue", i mean come on... Assassination spec seems like a fail PvP spec, and Subtlety spec lacks most of the nice PvP talents... :S
Yes, i see that you've put some effort to this, but.... Just....., no. Doesn't work.
And just btw... Engineering is very very easy to lvl up, if you know how to use such databases as, umm, Wowhead maybe? :D
Just for the cheeky reply I'll be nice XD.
Cheat death doesn't do #$%^ without a lot of resil. Riposte hits harder than sinister strike, reduces the melee damage that's coming at you, it procs A LOT, and deflection reduces damage taken so therefore less downtime. Riposte is also the highest DPE of any rogue ability.
If you are going the dungeon route, then unfair advantage probably is a waste but only if you spend 95% of your time in a dungeon with no solo. Imp snd isn't necessary, but it is nice and I personally recommend it.
I didn't much check the assassination spec, no comment there.
Ok, I was nice, now I'm going to bed. Just the thing with cheat death made me go /facepalm, I wasn't really going to be as ruthless as he is.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
I think i'm going to feed a troll here, but i don't know why someone would do all this effort just to troll.
the irony of this statement is palpable
there is no way someone could be this dumb
Lodureu, gtfo off my forums
Post by
Lodureu
First off, thanks Besaba for acting like a normal human being, and not like a *!@#. Honestly.
Lodureu, gtfo off my forums
Wowhead forums, actually. But you can be sure i'll keep away from your posts. :P
Would be wasted effort to give you an intelligent answer to this, so i don't even bother. You don't have to be a total $%^& even though you get some critisism.
Check into other leveling builds and see if they're anything like your builds.
Goodbye. :D
Post by
goshadstep2lose
for
fu
nsi
es
0/1 vigor
glyph of vigor
level 75
hunger for blood
0/2 fleet footed
you
totally
know what you're talking about
Post by
Lodureu
One last post... That information isn't correct, neither is any other character on my wowhead page. The rogue is now lvl 80, and doesn't go by the same name, + it isn't even on the same realm.
And FYI, Hunger For Blood = useful in PvE. Fleet Footed = useless in PvE.
I was running dungeons back then, and i used to try other spec for awhile which hadn't vigor (around when i downloaded that info here), so...
Sorry if my first post was a bit harsh, but you sir, you are just a jerk. "Oh, he disagrees with me, lolololo gtfo!1one"
Post by
goshadstep2lose
Fleet Footed = useless in PvE
how much more terrible information do you feel the need to post before you, you know, stfu?
Post by
Liquoid
Fleet Footed = useless in PvE.
You are either very inexperienced, or very dumb.
Post by
LeionX
I'm bumping this in hopes that Shad will update it some more.
Post by
Verelakai
I'm bumping this in hopes that Shad will update it some more.
No point really. Perfecting this guide will be nothing but a waste of time since Cata drops fairly soon and nearly all of this information will be useless. Although, he can use this guide as a foundation for another leveling guide in Cata.
Post by
LeionX
No point really. Perfecting this guide will be nothing but a waste of time since Cata drops fairly soon and nearly all of this information will be useless. Although, he can use this guide as a foundation for another leveling guide in Cata.
Thats true. Didn't think of that.
Though to be fair. It would be good to see a well written and up-to-date Rogue guide as compehensive as Shad was going to do.
Post by
kemppy
ok question i am lvling a rogue boa shoulders chest and 2 valnerable maces of makoan is it possible to spec combat without a wep spec or is that just stupid (dwarf rogue btw (rodwarf only person with the name))
Post by
LeionX
Yes you can. When I first leveled my Rogue (which was before Heirlooms) I didn't put points into any of the weapon specs just for the sheer fact that, as your questing, you would be changing weapons every couple of levels.
However, now that you have heirlooms. It's a good idea to spec into your weapons as they do provide some decent stats increase.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
I'm bumping this in hopes that Shad will update it some more.
truth, ive put this off to long, if I dont finish tonight i will tomorrow
No point really. Perfecting this guide will be nothing but a waste of time since Cata drops fairly soon and nearly all of this information will be useless. Although, he can use this guide as a foundation for another leveling guide in Cata.
not at all, we still have a good 5+ months before cata, half a year free of "how do i levul!" posts is totally worth the little work i put into this
and yea, im planning on overhauling it come cata, and if Im not around for some reason someone else can pick it up
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By
Lodureu
11 days ago (Patch 3.3.3)
One last post...
Last visit: 11 days ago
i lold
Post by
besaba
can you report for sticky more than once?
Post by
goshadstep2lose
bump for section
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Post by
615612
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Liquoid
Black ones.
Post by
Caperon
Black ones.
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Post by
Frames
Hurry and finish! haha.
I just started an undead rogue. This guide is very good. I could use some help on Leveling.
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