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What if it had happened differently? Another Scenario
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HiVolt
So, after realizing that the board is moving as slowly as a snail crawling through molasses on a glacier, I thought it might be time to reinvigorate an old discussion. Rather than bumping my
old thread
with a new subject to this one, I thought a new thread would be ideal in case anyone wanted to muse about the old topic in its respective thread. As well.
In this scenario, instead of making a mass exodus from Kalimdor in the many generations before the Sundering, the Pandaren have decided to stay. They still have heavy suspicion for the arcane magics that their Kaldorei acquaintances seem fond of. They have also already consolidated into a single cohesive Empire, as well.
How might things have been different in the War of the Ancients? How might this impact modern Pandaren culture and faction relations? Is it possible that any of the other races or cultures could have been affected negatively or positively due to their continued presence? Given the idea that they had never found Pandaria, where might they make their home today?
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Post by
Joemaster240
Looking at it from a perspective of the night elves during the war, because from what i know no other races helped in the main time line of events, that there impact on the war would have been negligible or even none, however close the two groups may be because night elves at that time felt as if they were above all other races, in fact i believe that is why they started the portal that lead them to Sargeras in the first place was to purge the world of all impure races other then themselves.
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HiVolt
Well, I'm not too sure on how much they'd effect the War of the Ancients... They were evasive toward arcane magic, or so it seems, but they may have forged alliances or even a kinship with the lower castes of the Kaldorei. But, their involvement in the war wouldn't have made much of a difference if Rhonin and Brox had made the trip back, which, barring any other crazy paradoxical circumstance, should still occur.
But still, that allegiance and their reverence for the Earthmother might have led to even an early neutrality for them between the Tauren and the Night Elves. They would likely have helped the Tauren against the Centaur, though.
Given their inquisitive nature and history of exploration, they might have even begun having contact with the Eastern Kingdoms before the Third War.
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Joemaster240
i doubt that night elves, at least not most, would form any kind of bond with any other race out side there own. They felt themselves above all other races even the lowest caste was better then any other race in there opinion.
And since they worship the earthmother i do agree that they may ally themselves with the tauren but i doubt the night elves would take them since they see Elune as THE mother of the earth. while the tauren, and maybe pandaren, view is that elune, or Mu'sha, was only one eye of the earth mother. Which to the highly religious night elves is blasphemy.
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Adamsm
From what we know, the Pandaren's are one of the original shamanistic races of Azeroth; therefore, I doubt they share either the Night Elf or the Tauren view point on Elune and Mu'sha. Had they remained on the continent, they would have fought against the Legion and the Highborne, same as the rest of the World. After the Sundering though, it's possible they would have gone into hiding like the other races, and might have emerged to assist the new Druidic Night Elves to help with the exiling of the Highborne after they caused the Mage storm that tore up large tracks of land.
Over all though; you'd probably see Pandaren settlements near their 'cousins' the Furbolg, helping them against threats and the rest. They probably would assist the Tauren if the Centaur Tauren conflict were to pass through their lands, just like they would have helped the Night Elves against the Orcs when they first landed on Kalimdor and began to cut down the forests of Ashenvale; alliances and all that.
As for them heading to Eastern Kingdoms... it's possible, once they learn the Earthen have come out of their vaults, and the new breed, the Dwarves, let it be known about their love of brew and history. More then likely the Pandarens would be the neutral race of Azeroth, welcome anywhere and everywhere.
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Skreeran
Pandaren... Must... resist... desire... to...
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Morec0
I've been thinking....
What if the Burning Legion used the four old ships in Netherstorm, Arc, Mech, Bot, and TK?
What if they, in theory, crashed Arch into Stormwind, Mech into the Exodar, Bot into Orgrimar, and TK into the Dark Portal to cut off Shattrath?
Hmm, it would be a good plan, except for one thing:
Where would they get the draenei pilots? Or would the Man'ari be a fine subsitute?
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Joemaster240
I've been thinking....
What if the Burning Legion used the four old ships in Netherstorm, Arc, Mech, Bot, and TK?
What if they, in theory, crashed Arch into Stormwind, Mech into the Exodar, Bot into Orgrimar, and TK into the Dark Portal to cut off Shattrath?
Hmm, it would be a good plan, except for one thing:
Where would they get the draenei pilots? Or would the Man'ari be a fine subsitute?
No legion pilots are too good of drivers. :P
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159454
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Adamsm
Couldn't really happen anyways; we reclaim the 4 ships after all; kill the Prince in Mech, take down the Tender in Bot(and the creatures of Bot itself kill a bunch), the Quarj in Arc killed the Prince there, and we kicked Kael out the window.... the Keep probably belongs to the Naaru again, so yeah.... no more crashing.
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Joemaster240
But see if you have a smart pilot then they won't crash. Thus you must have a stupid or ignorant pilot for them to willingly crash...i mean smart person wouldn't crash unless there was no alternative like not going on the mission at all.
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159454
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Post by
HiVolt
So, going on the idea that the Pandaren might have reestablished contact between Western and Eastern Kalimdor, if they hadn't left. How might this have played into the relations between existing factions?
If they had helped exile the Highborne, would they be willing to establish contact with the High Elves? If they had gotten acquainted with Stormwind prior to the First War, how might this have changed the events surrounding that war? After possibly meeting Broxigar, how would that affect their opinion on the Orcs?
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Monday
So I got directed here from Gnub's link in the forum game, so I thought I'd give it a whirl.
So, after realizing that the board is moving as slowly as a snail crawling through molasses on a glacier, I thought it might be time to reinvigorate an old discussion.
This is still relevant.
I would like to introduce a new scenario. What if Hakkar was not defeated at Zul'Gurub? Would the Gurubashi trolls have then taken over Stranglethorn, placing a veritable spear in the Alliance's back, stopping them from moving to Outland? If this happened, it is possible that Thrallmar is destroyed because the Alliance heroes weren't there to destroy the Forge Camp which had Thrallmar in it's sights.
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