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Post by
Magician22773
What you don't seem to understand is that the actual content of your post is only half the problem, Magician. It's the fact that you seem to have no respect for me or people in this thread who might not like that kind of post. Even after I've said so, you continue with posts that serve no other purpose than to continue to rile me up. That's a lack of respect I find almost worse than the sexism this thread is about.
On a more serious note...
Perhaps I am trying to "rile you up", so that you can see, that even when someone
clearly
attempts to show you that there can be a humorous side to this as well, that you are so entrenched in vile and anger, that even that boils your blood.
Perhaps you should look at some of those, and see that they are kinda funny, because they a kinda true (yes, I have a wife.....I know how true some of them are)
And maybe you should also realize that tossing a lighthearted post into an otherwise argumentative thread may not be all that bad. If you wanted to post a "joke" into a Christianity thread, that would be fine... assuming that the joke was made in jest, and not something massively offensive (which I do not see one thing in that post that qualifies as 'offensive' under any definition)
In other words..lighten up a little.
That is exactly what I am trying to do here. If I were wanting to blatantly disrespect you, as you seem to think I am, that is what I would be doing...I would not be disguising it as a joke.
EDIT: And fine..I yanked the last one. I will concede that it was made personal because of the situation, although, I still stand by what I said above....
it was meant in humor, not disrespect.
Post by
Gone
If it's funny it doesn't belong here. If it's serious it's highly insulting. It's the fact that it was posted in this thread that I find the most distasteful.
This is an example of what I think is being too sensitive. He was obviously just trying to keep the mood light, most of the things he listed were so silly that they couldn't possibly be construed as insulting or oppressive.
If I walked into a bible study and started making jokes about Christians, that would distasteful, and no one would be "overly sensitive" for wanting me to leave. If I went into the abortion thread and started making hanger jokes, that would be out of place as well. There is a time and place for making jokes. That was not it.
Fair enough, I didn't think of it that way.
She thought you were being overly sensitive
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME A WOMAN THIS WEEK!
Post by
MyTie
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME A WOMAN THIS WEEK!
Sorry.
Post by
Gone
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME A WOMAN THIS WEEK!
Sorry.
No biggy Xp
Just funny it's like the third time somebody on the forums has referred to me as "she" in the past week or so.
Post by
Magician22773
What Men Say
What Men Mean
What's wrong?
Oh no! Not again!
What's wrong?
WHAT DID I DO NOW?
What's wrong?
I guess sex tonight is out of the question.
I'm bored
Do you want to have sex?
I love you
Let's have sex now.
I love you too
Now why did you have to say that, it makes my stomach turn.
Yes, I missed you
How else do you expect me to answer that?
How do I compare with all your other boyfriends?
Is my penis really that small?
We've been through so much together
If it was not for you, I never would have lost my virginity
:-)......?
Post by
Jubilee
No. Just stop, please.
It's like trying to explain something to a brick wall.......
Post by
MyTie
What Off-Topic Says
What Off-Topic Means
Give it a rest, Magician.
Give it a rest, Magician.
:(
Post by
Adamsm
I've never really understood why people thought those things were funny.
Post by
Gone
Dude just post it in the bin
EDIT: I do think stuff like that is funny, but Jubilee is right this isn't the place. And especially after so many people have said to drop it.
Post by
Magician22773
How come 3 out of the 5 "
Worst States for Women
" are so "bad", because they are strict on abortion?
Is their some reason that, in the fight for equality, the ability to murder your child is a priority?
Post by
240140
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Post by
Magician22773
When you come in to these discussions and call someone "too sensative"
"Not one single hurtful thing ever got changed by someone grinning and bearing it.
Hurtful things changed because people have said ‘That hurts me. Stop.’
And every time you try to silence someone and tell them that they shouldn’t be hurt, shouldn’t be offended, shouldn’t choose this battle, that this isn’t important and that other things are more important - you are serving the hurtful rather than the hurt."
But what happens when two sides of an argument reach an impasse when each of their agendas are directly counter to the other?
Take my post above. It would seem that being pro-abortion is very much a part of being pro-women's rights. This is an impasse for me, and for many others.
So should I be expected to accept something I deem as 'hurtful', in order to support your cause, or should feminists relinquish abortion from their platform, in order to further their cause?
Post by
MyTie
Magician brings up a good point. I think median income of
employed
females, life expectancy, incrimination rates, etc, would all be entirely more important than her ability to get an abortion. But, abortion has become synonymous with women's rights for many. It's a right that MUST be fought for, and defended above all else, to them. It's disgusting, but it happens.
Post by
Jubilee
Because abortion is
the
women's issue in society and one that a lot of men are latching onto with an iron grip. That's not to say that men don't have some interest in their unborn children, but the fact is that pregnancy and childbirth biologically only happen to women, making women much more invested.
That's why it's a feminist issue. Whether abortion is good or not is a completely different issue, and I hope you don't bring it up here. The other thread's for that.
Post by
asakawa
It
is
a women's rights issue. It's not disgusting for other peoples' opinions to differ from your own.
I don't take much part in discussions on abortion because I honestly don't know - I see no positive solution to the problem. However, women have to spend 9 months being pregnant and then they have a baby which they cannot abandon as a man could. One might not respect a man that does that but it is an option available to him.
Emotive appeals and insults certainly don't make a difficult topic any easier.
(edit: Jubilee is right that there's another thread for discussion of the topic so I removed a small section where I gave my opinion on abortion)(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##
Post by
Adamsm
Aye, when it comes to something like abortion, where people are interfering with a woman's right of choice, it's always going to be an issue.
Post by
MyTie
I think your focus is a bit narrow if you don't think abortion should be discussed in a thread about feminism, when you also feel that:abortion is the women's issueIn the end, I think, as I said, there are issues that are more effective at measuring overall quality of life for women, as a way of comparing which states are best for women.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Removed my own post after seeing Alf's note. If this keeps going in the appropriate thread I will repost.
Post by
Skreeran
Aye, when it comes to something like abortion, where people are interfering with a woman's right of choice, it's always going to be an issue.The question the be asked, though, is "Do women have that right to choice?"
If a fetus actually is a baby, then I would say that the baby--a person--has a right to life that overrides a woman's right to choice.
Edit: Just going to say right now, I'm not arguing about the ethics of abortion itself in this thread. I'm keeping this relevant to feminism by saying that I don't think the women's right to choice may always be an actual right.
Post by
Adamsm
Aye, when it comes to something like abortion, where people are interfering with a woman's right of choice, it's always going to be an issue.The question the be asked, though, is "Do women have that right to choice?"
If a fetus actually is a baby, then I would say that the baby--a person--has a right to life that overrides a woman's right to choice.
/Shrug Until it's proven 100%, I just go with what we have now, which is a choice of the mother.
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