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Manatapit
Lol ok, my comprehension sucks although you just said i stated the core of our argument. Pro
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My guild is new, and low level and we started 10 man icc last night
thats why most of the reply here says if you pug and you get kicked/flamed before your raid starts its is because of your spec. its good that you have a guild that dont question your spec and gratz on topping the meter. most people here were just saying you can do more as MM or SV.
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Bahzell
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
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bantay
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
this is just being JEALOUS or people dont want to try something new because its hard.
kripparrian has been a big help for me going from SV to MM. not as hard as me going from BM to SV because i love being BM. being in a good guild has to have requiements too and i bet you wont have a chance to kick him out of a raid.
:)
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Bahzell
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
this is just being JEALOUS or people dont want to try something new because its hard.
kripparrian has been a big help for me going from SV to MM. not as hard as me going from BM to SV because i love being BM. being in a good guild has to have requiements too and i bet you wont have a chance to kick him out of a raid.
:)
Jealous? Of an arrogant %^&* that thinks playing one spec because it puts higher shiny numbers on his screen, is better than people playing A GAME, to HAVE FUN? Steady Shot spam was/is hard, not much more to learn going to Sv or Mm from that, just adds a few new buttons to mash. If you have to have someone teach you how to play the toon you rolled, you simply fail.
Im sure being in a good guild does have requirements, but regardless, being a complete and utter elitist !@#$%^ probably isn't one of them?
Then again, seeing this game progress over the past 4 years... that's not saying much, being the bigger $%^&*!bag makes you better and more skilled amirite?
Maybe you're right, maybe I won't ever get the chance to kick him out of a raid, but I sure as hell would look forward to it, hell, I'd get a tattoo of the screenshot. Not that he'd learn anything, I'd just be called lolnoob as he pushed his keyboard buttons ever so much faster(skill fyi)..
Where has all the fun times gone, that made it so wow didn't feel like a full time job? Guess that went out the window with well, Wrath of the Noob King.
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bantay
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
this is just being JEALOUS or people dont want to try something new because its hard.
kripparrian has been a big help for me going from SV to MM. not as hard as me going from BM to SV because i love being BM. being in a good guild has to have requiements too and i bet you wont have a chance to kick him out of a raid.
:)
Jealous? Of an arrogant %^&* that thinks playing one spec because it puts higher shiny numbers on his screen, is better than people playing A GAME, to HAVE FUN? Steady Shot spam was/is hard, not much more to learn going to Sv or mm from that, just adds a few new buttons to mash. If you have to have someone teach you how to play the toon you rolled, you simply fail.
Im sure being in a good guild does have requirements, but regardless, being a complete and utter elitist !@#$%^ probably isn't one of them?
Then again, seeing this game progress over the past 4 years... that's not saying much, being the bigger $%^&*!bag makes you better and more skilled amirite?
Maybe you're right, maybe I won't ever get the chance to kick him out of a raid, but I sure as hell would look forward to it, hell, I'd get a tattoo of the screenshot. Not that he'd learn anything, I'd just be called lolnoob as he pushed his keyboard buttons ever so much faster(skill fyi)..
Where has all the fun times gone, that made it so wow didn't feel like a full time job? Guess that went out the window with well, Wrath of the Noob King.
learning to play your toon from BM to SV to MM is really easy for you? wow! then as you said "i fail". you think its just pressing all those button and you get those numbers huh? i guess you know a lot more than the person who has a proof to show how good he is. LOL
the "fun" thing that your saying is maybe doing heroics/quests/pawning lowbies. i might be new at this game(you said in 4 yrs you been playing) but im sure i know more being a hunter in short time than you in 4 yrs. :)
Post by
Bahzell
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
this is just being JEALOUS or people dont want to try something new because its hard.
kripparrian has been a big help for me going from SV to MM. not as hard as me going from BM to SV because i love being BM. being in a good guild has to have requiements too and i bet you wont have a chance to kick him out of a raid.
:)
Jealous? Of an arrogant %^&* that thinks playing one spec because it puts higher shiny numbers on his screen, is better than people playing A GAME, to HAVE FUN? Steady Shot spam was/is hard, not much more to learn going to Sv or mm from that, just adds a few new buttons to mash. If you have to have someone teach you how to play the toon you rolled, you simply fail.
Im sure being in a good guild does have requirements, but regardless, being a complete and utter elitist !@#$%^ probably isn't one of them?
Then again, seeing this game progress over the past 4 years... that's not saying much, being the bigger $%^&*!bag makes you better and more skilled amirite?
Maybe you're right, maybe I won't ever get the chance to kick him out of a raid, but I sure as hell would look forward to it, hell, I'd get a tattoo of the screenshot. Not that he'd learn anything, I'd just be called lolnoob as he pushed his keyboard buttons ever so much faster(skill fyi)..
Where has all the fun times gone, that made it so wow didn't feel like a full time job? Guess that went out the window with well, Wrath of the Noob King.
learning to play your toon from BM to SV to MM is really easy for you? wow! then as you said "i fail". you think its just pressing all those button and you get those numbers huh? i guess you know a lot more than the person who has a proof to show how good he is. LOL
the "fun" thing that your saying is maybe doing heroics/quests/pawning lowbies. i might be new at this game(you said in 4 yrs you been playing) but im sure i know more being a hunter in short time than you in 4 yrs. :)
the "fun" thing that your saying is maybe doing heroics/quests/pawning lowbies. i might be new at this game(you said in 4 yrs you been playing) but im sure i know more being a hunter in short time than you in 4 yrs. :)
The last part made me laugh, like really, I fell off my chair, who the @#$% are you to assume you know more than me, when all Im doing is calling Kripp out for bein a !@#$%^? Til you see me play in game, qft please. And fyi, I spend my time in game doing the same thing most of you do, raids, heroics, farming, and I dont pvp, so killin lowbies that dont deserve it is out of the question.
For future note, assumptions make you look foolish, and yes Im assuming you already know this, but just dont care ^^
Now it's time for you to go to bed child... but first, remove your lips from between Kripp's asscheeks=P, unless he really really likes em there. Then w/e like I said previously, to each their own.
Post by
bantay
bm is as alive as holy dps priests. You can do it and do fine with it when comparing yourself to players who are not very good.
to the OP: you say how bm speced hunters are getting kicked our of groups and raids and whatever and how you think this is wrong? Is it really?
Speccing a particular way because you feel like it while knowing that it is substantially inferior is pretty much the same as not gemming your gear, or even staying in viper aspect because you don't want to bother switching. If people want to do that its fine, I'm sure most wont care on an individual basis. But when you group with other players with these circumstances you are directly responsible for the lower performance of the group and I don't think you should be in the least bit surprised when you're given the prejudice you described
wait for it wait for it..... Highest dps hunter in the world.... EPEEN FLEX.... no one cares, just get over yourself. nuff said.
If you want to pay someone's subscription fee so you can show them how you learned to push buttons on a keyboard so fast, have at it, 'til then, to each their own, and in some cases(shocker inc) some of them may enjoy spending their time casual-ing it out.
Sidenote: if there ever were a time I ended up in a raid with you Kripp, Id boot your ass just cause of your %^&*ty attitude. Just so you know ^^
Being in a good guild, pushing buttons fast, and mouthing off on forums does not give you the right to tell people how they should play.
this is just being JEALOUS or people dont want to try something new because its hard.
kripparrian has been a big help for me going from SV to MM. not as hard as me going from BM to SV because i love being BM. being in a good guild has to have requiements too and i bet you wont have a chance to kick him out of a raid.
:)
Jealous? Of an arrogant %^&* that thinks playing one spec because it puts higher shiny numbers on his screen, is better than people playing A GAME, to HAVE FUN? Steady Shot spam was/is hard, not much more to learn going to Sv or mm from that, just adds a few new buttons to mash. If you have to have someone teach you how to play the toon you rolled, you simply fail.
Im sure being in a good guild does have requirements, but regardless, being a complete and utter elitist !@#$%^ probably isn't one of them?
Then again, seeing this game progress over the past 4 years... that's not saying much, being the bigger $%^&*!bag makes you better and more skilled amirite?
Maybe you're right, maybe I won't ever get the chance to kick him out of a raid, but I sure as hell would look forward to it, hell, I'd get a tattoo of the screenshot. Not that he'd learn anything, I'd just be called lolnoob as he pushed his keyboard buttons ever so much faster(skill fyi)..
Where has all the fun times gone, that made it so wow didn't feel like a full time job? Guess that went out the window with well, Wrath of the Noob King.
learning to play your toon from BM to SV to MM is really easy for you? wow! then as you said "i fail". you think its just pressing all those button and you get those numbers huh? i guess you know a lot more than the person who has a proof to show how good he is. LOL
the "fun" thing that your saying is maybe doing heroics/quests/pawning lowbies. i might be new at this game(you said in 4 yrs you been playing) but im sure i know more being a hunter in short time than you in 4 yrs. :)
the "fun" thing that your saying is maybe doing heroics/quests/pawning lowbies. i might be new at this game(you said in 4 yrs you been playing) but im sure i know more being a hunter in short time than you in 4 yrs. :)
The last part made me laugh, like really, I fell off my chair, who the @#$% are you to assume you know more than me, when all Im doing is calling Kripp out for bein a !@#$%^? Til you see me play in game, qtf please. And fyi, I spend my time in game doing the same thing most of you do, raids, heroics, farming, and I dont pvp, so killin lowbies that dont deserve it is out of the question.
For future note, assumptions make you look foolish, and yes Im assuming you already know this, but just dont care ^^
Now it's time for you to go to bed child.
lets keep this going, its fun.
im just saying if your good as the guys is. show your proof and i might learn from you too. a lot of my post here are asking question and i dont mind being called a noob because i learn from people who answered my post. all i see from what kripp post is pointing out what needed. and yeah, you might be older than me using those kind words make you old! LOL
and oh, careful old man you might hurt your back falling off that chair... LOL
Post by
Bahzell
What proof is needed? You wanna see screen shots of me being able to push buttons on a keyboard really fast too? What Kripp is saying is that if youre not Mm or Sv, youre worthless, which is stupid, people dont pay to play this game to have some ^&*!@#$ tell them they need to spec a certain way.
In the grand scheme of things, and proven on EJ, is that Bm CAN keep up with both Mm and Sv, what it really comes down to is play style and a persons ability to maximize their character. If being #1 is what it's all about, then well, 99% of the wow population might as well just quit, cause they'll never make it. Some people do play this for the sheer enjoyment of farming, or pvping, etc. If a guild is so worried about maximizing their dps potential, that's on them, but there is no rule stating that you have to do
OVER 9000
dps just to be a part of something. Hard modes, possibly. Any regular mode raid in game, not a chance. Something everyone seems to forget, being a good player isn't just about being top dps, add in some situational awareness, the ability to follow instruction, and a progressive attitude, and you have a winning combination imo.
As to being older than you, probably not by as much as you think;) I just have a good vocabulary(part of being educated).
Not trying to bash you in any way, but why do you have to come here for people to tell you how to play? I come to this forum mostly just to see what people have to say, I prefer to figure out the semantics of my own hunter, on my own.And still somehow manage to do satisfying dps. Oh, and I am Marksman by the way, but not because it's better dps, I just prefer the playstyle, if ever Bm got some more shots to mix in, I might consider switching back, just to break away from the everyday.
On another note, Lokivette has come the closest to expressing why BM
may
be behind the curve a bit, somewhat of a short sight by Blizz when Wrath came out, that our pets would get roflstomped so quick, the aoe damage reduction has helped a bit, but I still can't say it's enough yet. With the proposed change to stat scaling in Cataclysm, we should see all 3 trees being utilized equally I would imagine..(Hope)
Now enough with this damn argument, am tired of angertyping=P(Been a rough week, 2 friends passings makes for not a happy Bahzell)
Post by
bantay
What proof is needed? You wanna see screen shots of me being able to push buttons on a keyboard really fast too? What Kripp is saying is that if youre not Mm or Sv, youre worthless, which is stupid, people dont pay to play this game to have some ^&*!@#$ tell them they need to spec a certain way.
In the grand scheme of things, and proven on EJ, is that Bm CAN keep up with both Mm and Sv, what it really comes down to is play style and a persons ability to maximize their character. If being #1 is what it's all about, then well, 99% of the wow population might as well just quit, cause they'll never make it. Some people do play this for the sheer enjoyment of farming, or pvping, etc. If a guild is so worried about maximizing their dps potential, that's on them, but there is no rule stating that you have to do
OVER 9000
dps just to be a part of something. Hard modes, possibly. Any regular mode raid in game, not a chance. Something everyone seems to forget, being a good player isn't just about being top dps, add in some situational awareness, the ability to follow instruction, and a progressive attitude, and you have a winning combination imo.
As to being older than you, probably not by as much as you think;) I just have a good vocabulary(part of being educated).
Not trying to bash you in any way, but why do you have to come here for people to tell you how to play? I come to this forum mostly just to see what people have to say, I prefer to figure out the semantics of my own hunter, on my own.And still somehow manage to do satisfying dps.
so in your understanding is kripp says if your not MM or SV your worthless? well, you are really intelligent that you understand what he means as well as i refer you to use those educated word " who the @#$% are you " and "out for bein a !@#$%^? "
in my assumption, kripp or anyone who suggested that BM is not a good spec for raiding is only making a point to the OP. not telling him how to play and what to expect if he pug and get a not so favorable comment from other hunters. as you say you been reading threads from EJ. thus those threads help to improve you gameplay as a hunter? yeah, you dont need help how to play huh? LOL
Post by
Bahzell
First off, I didnt say I read the EJ threads, you assumed that. And yes, that is pretty much what Kripp is saying with the whole " If youre BM you wont get into my raids". Would it not make you feel useless if that were directed toward you? Would it not have been better to say, if youre having problems keeping your raid spot as bm, why not just try mm or sv and see how you do. Not LOL you suck BMLOL( not literal mind you, but definitely implied).
Also, I never said I dont need help to learn how to play, I just tend to stick with in game experience, and if something works, cool, if not, I change it. I was Marksman last year before it even became "the" spec. Don't tell me I dont know what Im doing.
By your replies however, Im going to guess youre about 16, in which case, grow up.
Edited yet again, for typos, sausage fingers FTL
Post by
bantay
but how would you know that its proven on EJ? "In the grand scheme of things, and proven on EJ, is that Bm CAN keep up with both Mm and Sv?" you said it yourself. i understand when you say i spec this way because i love to. like you said, your MM before it was "the spec". thats fun for you. for me i have fun doing the dps i expect myself is doing with the spec that can give me the most. we dont know if BM might be the spec to be in cataclysm. and if you take offense in what he said that he wont invite you in his raid, so be it. why cry over it. i would be ashamed joining a raid that im doing half of what the top dps of the same class and the same gear is doing. and im not telling you that you dont know what your doing, thats why i ask if as you can do dps as kripp does by just pressing those buttons fast i might learn from you too.
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