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How many drinks a day is average?
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Im 26 and 3/4 and its been a few years since I had something alcoholic. I dont have much of a taste for it. Also where is the fun in getting drunk and losing your wits.
This reminds me of a quote "People who drink, drink to get to how you feel when you are sober."
Don't mean offend anybody who gets drunk, but this kinda describes my view toward it.
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I have a very good feeling that I'd become an alcoholic; it's my main reason as to why I don't and won't drink.
That's not having enough faith in your willpower, or generally conceding a lack of control in what you do. It'd be like saying that watching porn once at a friend's place will result in you being a porn addict.
Back to topic, I'm 25 in Sydney, Australia. I don't drink on a regular basis, I might have a glass or two of champagne or other sparkling wine at weddings, 21sts or other special occasions, or I might share a glass of wine with my girlfriend if someone else has brought a bottle to a moderately special occasion dinner, just for tastes. NYE, for example, resulted in a glass of champagne, and a half-glass of champagne jelly.
Total on average - maybe one a month? But that's more likely to be 2-3 on a weekend every couple of months.
There are three reasons people commonly state when they avoid alcohol:
1) I do it so I don't get addicted.
2) I do it to take care of my health.
3) I don't like the taste of it.
(1), as I've already stated, actually implies a lack of faith in your own self control, not to mention the fact that it's blatantly false - addiction is brought upon by regularity, not by the alcohol itself. Drinking too much will just make you feel like crap the next day, and the only reason you'll get addicted is if you drink more to get rid of the feeling and associate the relief with the act of drinking. Same goes for smoking.
(2), is a decent excuse, but one abused by most people who are happy to chug down litres of Mountain Dew and Coke. And chips, chocolates, Maccas, etc.
(3) is the only valid excuse in my mind. The others are far too self-righteous and "my life is better than yours" for my liking.
Only wines I like are dessert wines, but I don't have any reason to go out of my way to acquire any... would just assume drink a glass of sweet tea.
It's not to everyone's tastes, but have you tried choya (Japanese plum wine)? It goes nicely like a soft drink when mixed with soda water, or you can enjoy it straight on the rocks as well.
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There's a pretty strong established link between alcoholic parents/grandparents and alcoholism in the individual. Volition is always going to play a major role, but it's a little too abrupt to say it's
all
about the choices you make and how you reinforce them. I know I'd think twice about how much I drank if there was a history of alcoholism in my family. I have confidence in my ability to control myself, so it's not like I'd never, ever drink a drop, but I'm not about to completely ignore genetics. If some people are more 'better safe than sorry' about that situation than I'd be, I don't really have an objection to it.
I also think people who have good reason not to have much faith in their willpower and who understand their limitations deal with that the best by avoiding getting into situations where they'd be heavily reliant on their willpower in the first place. I'm not one of those people who 'literally cannot stop at one potato chip' (do people still say that?) but it makes sense to me that if you are one of those people the simplest solution for you would be to not eat one potato chip.
2) I agree with the double standard for non alcoholic unhealthy things, but I wouldn't say it's 'abused.' Yes, it's funny to watch someone walk out of McDonalds with two 3000 calorie burgers and a diet coke, but it's still true that they're being marginally more healthy than two 3000 calorie burgers and a full sugar coke. If a person's only aware of the health risk of their lifestyle in one aspect in not another, surely that's better than being unaware in both aspects, even if they're a few veggie burgers without the bun short of perfection?
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Hyperspacerebel
but it's still true that they're being marginally more healthy than two 3000 calorie burgers and a full sugar coke.
That's not totally correct. Splenda is much worse for you than sugar -- in a different way.
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Squishalot
If some people are more 'better safe than sorry' about that situation than I'd be, I don't really have an objection to it.
The thing is, most people I've found (not necessarily including Gorefiend, since it's difficult to gauge underlying thoughts online) who use the "I don't do it otherwise I'll get addicted" line have an underlying view that anyone who drinks regularly (eg, the glass of wine at dinner) is addicted, despite it being absolutely incorrect. Hence my view that it's too self-righteous for my liking.
And I would say that (2) is abused. These people do honestly say "I know it's bad for me, but it's ok, I'll work it off later!" It's self-delusion. I agree that a medium sized meal is better than an upsized meal, but it's a bit much to (again) hold that as a self-righteous "I'm doing the right thing, you're not" view over the next guy.
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If some people are more 'better safe than sorry' about that situation than I'd be, I don't really have an objection to it.
The thing is, most people I've found (not necessarily including Gorefiend, since it's difficult to gauge underlying thoughts online) who use the "I don't do it otherwise I'll get addicted" line have an underlying view that anyone who drinks regularly (eg, the glass of wine at dinner) is addicted, despite it being absolutely incorrect. Hence my view that it's too self-righteous for my liking.
And I would say that (2) is abused. These people do honestly say "I know it's bad for me, but it's ok, I'll work it off later!" It's self-delusion. I agree that a medium sized meal is better than an upsized meal, but it's a bit much to (again) hold that as a self-righteous "I'm doing the right thing, you're not" view over the next guy.
Ah, so it upsets you if said with self righteous undertones. Then, yes, I agree with you. Such people deserve
several roundhouse kicks to the groin.
polite education on the perceived and real dangers of alcohol consumption.
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Aye; biggest reason I don't drink? During high school, following a family New's Year party, my step-father had so much to drink he passed out in our cousin's bathroom.... made me realize drinking was not worth the hassles afterwards....
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Addiction is not the act, it's the feeling or whatever that causes the act.
Um no it's not. You break an addiction by stopping the action. Most of the time you'll never get right of the feeling or attraction.
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