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Post by
Thror
Pst... hey, you could take a look at a some books like
THIS ONE
and spice up things a bit. Sex is not the foundation but it sure does help a LOT in solidifying a relationship built on strong respect and love :D
Lawl Aadra. I sell books... we have a couple bookshelves of books about sex. I have read most of them, and browsed all of them :P And put them to use. And physically i am in a good shape, if i should judge myself. So these things are very spicy in my relationship. We tend to have trouble with incompatible personalities sometimes, though.
Gonna watch the Slovakia vs. Canada match with my gf. (she is more into hockey than me btw) Gonna be interesting, but i think Canada will win. It is amusing to see how Russia did not even make it into the final rounds.
And to add something about WoW... yesterday sucked. We only downed the first wing, Festergut and Rotface. The speed our 25men raid moves is comparable to the speed of a one thousand years old snail. My 10 men, compared to that, is lightning fast... we can clear 10/12 in 3 hours, including a few wipes on Sindragosa. Had a good 10m this wednsday. Oh, btw, the lags on my realm are horrible. It does not seem to hit 10 men raids, but our 25 mens sometimes get impossible... it takes 4 or 5 global cooldowns to cast a single ability.
Post by
LookOut
And to add something about WoW... yesterday sucked. We only downed the first wing, Festergut and Rotface. The speed our 25men raid moves is comparable to the speed of a one thousand years old snail. My 10 men, compared to that, is lightning fast... we can clear 10/12 in 3 hours, including a few wipes on Sindragosa. Had a good 10m this wednsday. Oh, btw, the lags on my realm are horrible. It does not seem to hit 10 men raids, but our 25 mens sometimes get impossible... it takes 4 or 5 global cooldowns to cast a single ability.
Same, same and same. Not only is our progress super-slow on 25man, but there's more time spent not fighting as well. Ofc having to wait for 24 people instead of 9, it kind of makes sense. Kind of. What sucks, on Putri specifically, is that we seem to have half the raid doing excellent deeps (around 8 or more), and half the raid sucking (around 5k, sometimes even less if they managed to die from the malleable goo). This leads to not killing slimes fast enough. our GM just doesn't seem to have the heart to kick bad people -_- THAT is killing our progress imo.
O btw, we got Valithria up to 2 mil from her max hp, which is a significant improvement over last week's attempts. Still, I feel embarassed that we can't even get a non-endwing boss down ... Even though it's stressful like hell to tank it with multiple adds spawning at the same time, and then having an abomination, a zombei and a ****ton of worms on you.
On 10man however, we pretty much oneshot everything, but Sindragosa is still giving us a bit of trouble even though we killed her before. So last week our nice GM decided to extend the lockout period so we have an entire week for Sindragosa + mr. LK.
About the lag in 25mans: the only day we're having problems with that is wednesday. Sometimes thursdays as well, depends really. Normally, the lag always starts when we're pulling festergut, however this week we got it at gunship as well :-/ luckily I was on our boat, just spamming my swipe macro and hoping for the best...
Edit: woops, quoting error
Post by
Thror
I made up a new sig quote :D
Adds on Valithria 25 are not very hard imo. My guilds DPS can get them down fast.
Putricide. Srsly. We did not kill him yet in 25m. In 10 men, we do him on first try. Without slowing down. We literally just go through him like we go through Marrowgar. In 25m the raid turns into a giant retard-o-fest. We have only been in P3 without anyone getting killed in P1+2 like three times. It is ODD, considering my guild has three 10 men groups that can clear Putricide easily. I do not know what goes wrong in there, but it is definitely disappointing.
Never killed Sindragosa in 10 men so far... and she is fairly hard. We can get to P3 quite reliably... if noone %^&*s up on ice tombs, which does not happen generally... but we die fast in P3. I could use a detailed Phase 3 tactic for her, with some tips or so. Or a video of Sindragosa in good quallity and from the tank perspective.
Post by
LookOut
Then your guild is doing better than mine. What we usually do, is take pro people for our first 10man group, leaving a second 10man group with a few tards (I said our GM has a hard time kicking people right?) who can't even get putri down. Last week was an exception.
On Sindragosa, we breeze through P1 and 2, although 2 weeks ago (I think) we had one of our tree druids ****ing up consistently on frost tombs. Seriously, how hard is it to NOT follow the other person aboutto get frost tombed? I think he made that same bloody mistake like 2 or 3 times in one night...
Anyways, P3 is all about control really. Frost tombs need to go down fast, but not too fast because the tank has to run behind it to remove the debuff. It's usually not the end of the world if you don't lose your stacks after the first frost tomb, they should drop of on the next one( just ask dps to calm down a bit till they do). Your tank should hold his cd's for those moments when it takes a little longer, especially when she does that aoe thingy or frost breath. Other than that, it's just people having to watch out not to stand close to the person about to get frost tombed, and people about to get frost tombed running out so they don't wipe the raid.
But I shouldn't be acting this pro, I downed her just once myself (and got me a tasty new
offspec necklace
in the process ^^). Our GM even threw the tactic overboard out of desperation and went for a solotank tactic (youtube is full of those it seems). Problem is: we don't have the dps for that (not even with me in kitty spec!) ...
Edit:
love
your new sig. *nabs it* ^_^
Post by
Thror
http://www.kongregate.com/games/undefined/protector
Best flash game to waste time. Advice: it is better to hire more mages and spread them across the level, than to have a few of them with high levels. It even has a talent tree.
Anyway.
On sindragosa... i found one thing extremely troubling. With stacks from Frost Breath, even if the tomb is close to me, it takes AGES to get to it. Some of our wipes were caused by... tank not getting behind the tomb before it was shattered due to extreme speed reduction. :-/ We usually switch at 2 or 3 stacks of Frost Breath.
Oh, check this out. :D A video of Saurfang 10m normal my guildy made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEcxrONlRi0
Watch Omen. :D The aggro lead i get right at the beginning. Awwww.
Post by
LookOut
On sindragosa... i found one thing extremely troubling. With stacks from Frost Breath, even if the tomb is close to me, it takes AGES to get to it. Some of our wipes were caused by... tank not getting behind the tomb before it was shattered due to extreme speed reduction. :-/ We usually switch at 2 or 3 stacks of Frost Breath.
Shifting out of form removes the speed reduction. I always shift to cat form for the 30% increased run speed as well ^^
Warriors can intervene (the warrior in our guild does it on every air phase as well). I guess dk's can switch to unholy presence, even though that "wastes" an unholy rune and doesn't really remove the debuff ... No idea about pallies tbh.
And we switch as soon as possible, we don't wait for a certain stack of Mystic Buffet (not frost breath ^^) before taunting back. DPS should go out of LoS as well, but can't remember what number of stacks.
Post by
Tarkeel
Pallies can probably use blessing of freedom, which for extra bonus points is targetable IIRC :)
Post by
LookOut
We'll most likely go for sindragosa tonight, so I'll ask em to test it out :)
Hand of protection works to remove the bleed stacks from Gormok, so I reckon Hand of Freedom would indeed work for this ability as well. We'll see.
Post by
Thror
Holy @#$%, now thats a tip i was looking for.
Does shapeshifting only remove the movement penalty, or does it remove the entire Frost Breath debuff?
Post by
LookOut
well the frost breath debuff doesn't do anything else but slow you and reduce your attack speed, which shouldn't bother you after the other tank has taunted. I think it removes the entire debuff, but can't say that with 100% certainty.
I guess that's a second ability to check out tonight then :p
Edit: btw, when shifting out of form, be mindful of her cleave ^^ I haven't died from it yet (I think), but you could get unlucky :)
Post by
hashmel
Generally if a debuff does multiple things with at least one of those being a snare/movement slow then if shifting would cancel the snare/movement slow it'll remove the entire debuff.
Post by
LookOut
Finally did Sindragosa10 last night, and we finally killed her again! (funnily enough on the last attempt of the night, just like our first kill). We had a frustrating wipe at
40k hp
prior to that due to her berserk (slack dps is slack, one of our rogues only managed 3k, 1k less than everyone else :-/). Seriously, 40k hp, that's almost as ****ed up as a putri attempt I talked about some posts ago!
I was more wary of shapeshifting after the taunt switch this time, if I saw her casting frost breath I would stay in bear form for 1 second longer so I don't get instagibbed due to lower hp (frost breath + buffet stacks hurt).
What we did when the berserk was inc, was leaving frost tombs up and just zerg the boss. Our pally tank even survived a few seconds of her berserker rage, but I reckon that was either bubble or ardent defender or some OP crap like that :p
Edit: this leaves us with an entire tuesday of wiping on mr. LK! And after that: raid extension baby! He's going DOWN!
Post by
Thror
For the next raid lockout period, my guild plans to compose a group of the best players from all R1, R2 and R3, and do some hard progress on the Lich King... so all three raids have hard modes unlocked. Gonna be pretty handy... since for our level of gear, some 10m hard modes are gonna be a breeze.
And i am glad i got the main tank spot :B
lookout, you still did not confirm if the shapeshift does or doesnt drop the Frost Breath debuff :/
Post by
LookOut
lookout, you still did not confirm if the shapeshift does or doesnt drop the Frost Breath debuff :/
Sorry my bad. It does remove it completely, just as Hashmel said (and makes the most sense anyways).
Post by
Thror
So so, news from the yesterdays raid.
First we killed Valithria, lol. I mean healed. Whatever. Been tanking with my DK, it was lots of fun, throwing chains of ice at the zombies and such. Now my DK has first wing cleared and Valithria down, lawl... people browsing his achievements are gonna be puzzled. I brought my DK because i want to get a lvl 251 weapon for him... so its either gonna be Oxheart from Valithria or Ramaldanis axe from Saurfang. Tanking worms when Blood specced is no joke. The weapon did not drop, but i got the tanking belt! Yay.
Now Sindragosa. I was banging my head against the wall so much yesterday! Never been so frustrated on a raid i guess. We can get to the third phase quite regularly... now after a total of four nights of progressing her (one has been yesterday, others before) some raid members STILL do not know how to hide from frost bombs. We have once had our hunter eat ALL of the bombs. In phase 3 the fail truck arrives, and things like 3 people chain-ice tombed, or DPS not even being able to break a single tomb started happening.
The things i personally had to do in the fight did not seem any hard. Quite trivial actually.
1. Tank Sindragosa (duh) (skeleton key used to mitigate frost breath damage, barkskin used pretty often, but in a way that it is available for P3) + imba bear tank DPS.
2. Shapeshift out of bear and into bear whenever i get a frost breath debuff. Only requires to double-click the bear form button, never been hit by an uber falcon punch of death while my armor was low. I have once succesfully battlerezzed someone while tanking her.
3. Run out of Bliste-whatever Cold. Charge her after she finishes casting, but not too soon, because she gets position bugged, and charging too soon can make her turn by 180°, which messes positioning up.
4. Change target to someone else in the raid when my "melee" stacks get to 5+, let them fall off.
5. When frost tombs are up, use them to break LoS with the places where frost bombs are about to land, while damaging the tombs too. Always rely on the tomb with more HP as a hiding place.
In P3:
6. The offtank goes to hide behind the first Tomb that appears. Lets his stack of Buffet (mmmm, buffet) fall off, comes to taunt the boss... i switch to cat form, go hide behind a frost tomb... as soon as my stacks fall off, i run to taunt the boss back. Rinse and repeat, keep watching out for her other abilities.
I never messed up any of my tasks. I was the only person that did not get hit by any Frost Bombs in any of our tries, did not get killed by Blistering Cold, and i did not get frozen by mistake. Pretty much all my deaths have been caused by Sindragosas normal damage when the rest of the raid was dead in P3. Insanely frustrating. HARRRR just thinking about it makes me want to bite something.
Post by
LookOut
2. Shapeshift out of bear and into bear whenever i get a frost breath debuff. Only requires to double-click the bear form button, never been hit by an uber falcon punch of death while my armor was low. I have once succesfully battlerezzed someone while tanking her.
I don't really see why this is needed, the attack speed reduction doesn't really hurt. But I guess more damage is always good. However, since I do the most damage when not tanking (kitty form ftw, other tank was a protadin), I went kitty until P3. With Heart of Iron (lol) instead of the Organ since the stacks would fall of quite a lot and the most painful attack (breath) is frost damage anyways.
Bliste-whatever Cold
Blistering ;-)
Charge her after she finishes casting, but not too soon, because she gets position bugged, and charging too soon can make her turn by 180°, which messes positioning up.
I do that as well! *highfive* Never had her turn 180° though, but sometimes she does bug differently if a tank just eats the aoe. What she does is take a few steps forward, even though the tank did not move an inch. Which means she's hitting my butt, not my face. When charging at the right time, she doesn't do this, which is great! Maybe I'll suggest MTing her the entire fight next time ...
stupid dps
Same here, except on our first kill. After our first kill, it took 3 nights (maybe even more while I wasn't online) to get another one, because our original team didn't have fail people in it (I was even wearing polar gear on our first kill, LOL ^^).
Example: blistering cold, everyone runs out, 2 people die. And they insist that they were as far away as everyone else -_-
Post by
LookOut
Don't have the correct items *cough*
Ikfirus' Sack
*cough* yet though.
Not a single drop since ICC came out, seriously
WOOOOOOHOOOOO the chest dropped last night!
And with the chest, I could finally equip my T10 head, shoulders and my TotC25 Belt (still had the hit/expertise belt from conquest emblems). After I've done VoA this week, I'll equip T10 gloves and pants as well for a full 4set! <3 ICC life has just begun :D
I already noticed a huge jump in threat with that 2set bonus. On Saurfang, our warrior tank and me always fight over threat to see who'll tank him first :p I used to lose, but 1 macro setup and 2set bonus later, he was biting the dust! Or maybe I just got tricksed / MD'ed instead :p
Post by
Tarkeel
Congratulations! :) I love it, even if I haven't really had a chance to test the damage reduction bonus yet, and by the looks of it I won't for a while. Feeling pretty burned out atm, and my raidgroup seems to be dying, so looks like I'm taking a break or atleast toning it down a lot.
Post by
Thror
High five Lookout! I also had a good raiding day yesterday!
First the T10 sanctified gloves dropped from Toravon, and then i got 95 emblems and bought the T10 legs, and now i finally have my 4T10 bonus!
We went ICC 10 yesterday... with our uber group. And it was like... um... jumping from the fail truck (my usual raid group) to the epic win train. We flattened everything up to the Lich King without any wipes, in 2 hours. Sindragosa killed on the first pull, i had to lol at that. We got an achievement from Rotface and Valithria. We did the 5 emblem daily (that guy on Lady Deathwhisper) too. Even the Lich King had trouble stopping our awesomeness. We got him below 60% on the first pull, and that was with 6 people that have seen him for the first time. But well, then the hard progression started. The raid was good, the DPS was high, tanks did not die... but some mistakes were done. And on the LK, mistakes mean a wipe. I like how success in that fight depends on every single raid member.
I also got killed by the LK a couple times, which afterwards meant a wipe. Even though i should probably be sad, i am glad actually. Glad that the Lich King is one of the (few) ICC bosses that pose a threat to the tank. I would feel disappointed if he could not get me below 50% hp, like some other bosses. I should get better however, i think most of the deaths were avoidable.
The LK encounter is awesome and fun to do. The effects are perfect, i love the Frozen Throne area... when the edges of the Throne shatter, it looks awesome. Snow everywhere. Oh... perhaps i should have turned the music (or sound generally) on...
Best try on the LK was 44%. Biggest raid killer was Defile, and people not getting out of it soon enough.
The +5% buff is somewhat noticeable. But seriously. Its gonna be +30% in a couple weeks. Thats like... wtf. Cataclysm stats before the release of Cataclysm. :D
4T10 is TEH SEX. I use enrage all the time now. So i get rage injections, +10% damage AND +12% damage reduction. Wtf strong.
Post by
etrin
the only thing I worry about is visible panty line.
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