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I think blizzard went to far this time (Thrall related)
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Aye mainly your feud is just with Varian...
Varian, Staghelm, Greymane, to name but a few
Post by
Monday
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Aye mainly your feud is just with Varian...
Varian, Staghelm, Greymane, to name but a few
You're mainly more vocal against Varian though, that's what I was saying.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Heh, pot calling kettle?
You know thats not true. You being someone who sees things from a neutral pov, something like someone making a post saying why he thinks the horde is the evil race, and the only thing he has to back it is an alliance only pov.
If I were that ignorent, I'd make a post saying
all
alliance are just a load of bigoted, self rightous hypocrites. If you can link anywhere I've said that I'll take my hat off to you.
Rather, I say who in the alliance is that way, and then who isn't. Thats the factor of greys instead of black and white.
Hey, just saying Tauren. *holds up hands in defense of himself, but grins anyways*
And what I'm saying is, if I were to post such a thing about why all the alliance are the bad guys and there ignorance or self rightousness is a blot, someone would be within the rights to say why this isn't so, exactly the same as when someone accuses the horde as being the 'evil side', anyone is well within there right to say why this is wrong.
Post by
Adamsm
And what I'm saying is, if I were to post such a thing about why all the alliance are the bad guys and there ignorance or self rightousness is a blot, someone would be within the rights to say why this isn't so, exactly the same as when someone accuses the horde as being the 'evil side', anyone is well within there right to say why this is wrong.
Right, I get that... but you do get what I was saying as well right? Your own desire to have the Horde shown in the best light possible, with Thrall held up as the ultimate symbol of good(even if others don't agree) is equal to thechamps own stance on the Alliance.
Post by
229054
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Post by
Adamsm
Such desire is a heresy for fans of a good plot. Its boring when there's a faction, supposed to be on equal footing with others, but is right anyways.
I think that's one of the reasons why people hate elves from other stories and its the reason why I dislike the draenei.
Aye, I can see that... of course, I still love my draenei, even if they are perfect.
Post by
taurenmoo812
And what I'm saying is, if I were to post such a thing about why all the alliance are the bad guys and there ignorance or self rightousness is a blot, someone would be within the rights to say why this isn't so, exactly the same as when someone accuses the horde as being the 'evil side', anyone is well within there right to say why this is wrong.
Right, I get that... but you do get what I was saying as well right? Your own desire to have the Horde shown in the best light possible, with Thrall held up as the ultimate symbol of good(even if others don't agree) is equal to thechamps own stance on the Alliance.
Actully I've said on many occations that elements within the horde, the forsaken, the warsong, garrosh, even the broken front, are things in the horde that shows its dark side, well elements like thrall, shamanism, the frostwolves, the tauren, honor and other things are part of its good side. And yeah I note on the best elements in the horde since I am horde, but I don't go saying all the alliance are a group of facists or something.
Aye, I can see that... of course, I still love my draenei, even if they are perfect.
Look hard enough and you find
dark
elements in all races.
Post by
HiVolt
Such desire is a heresy for fans of a good plot. Its boring when there's a faction, supposed to be on equal footing with others, but is right anyways.
I think that's one of the reasons why people hate elves from other stories and its the reason why I dislike the draenei.
This, to the thousandth degree.
Post by
Adamsm
And yeah I note on the best elements in the horde since I am horde, but I don't go saying all the alliance are a group of facists or something.Weren't you one of the biggest denouncers of Varian with Rank... and you actually used that in reference to him and his Stormwind humans......
Post by
taurenmoo812
And yeah I note on the best elements in the horde since I am horde, but I don't go saying all the alliance are a group of facists or something.Weren't you one of the biggest denouncers of Varian with Rank... and you actually used that in reference to him and his Stormwind humans......
I probably did, refering to him and his followers.
Edit: Dam it I just realised this thread is melting down into another Varian thread.
Post by
Adamsm
And yeah I note on the best elements in the horde since I am horde, but I don't go saying all the alliance are a group of facists or something.Weren't you one of the biggest denouncers of Varian with Rank... and you actually used that in reference to him and his Stormwind humans......
I probably did, refering to him and his followers.
Right... so, as said, pot calling kettle does work for some of your views, as they are equal to those of the pure Alliance fan's we have here on the board.
Edit: Dam it I just realised this thread is melting down into another Varian thread.No really; beyond this, I don't intend to drag the King of Stormwind into the discussion.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Right... so, as said, pot calling kettle does work for some of your views, as they are equal to those of the pure Alliance fan's we have here on the board.
My stance was from speaking against something accusing all the horde as being the 'evil' ones, well me saying varian and his followers, which I've never said are evil, I more then likely said they were ignorent
Post by
Adamsm
Right... so, as said, pot calling kettle does work for some of your views, as they are equal to those of the pure Alliance fan's we have here on the board.
My stance was from speaking against something accusing all the horde as being the 'evil' ones, well me saying varian and his followers, which I've never said are evil, I more then likely said they were ignorent
Heh, no, a few times you said he was evil. Still though, merely was attempting to show something was all.
Post by
Rankkor
the Forsaken are not a bunch of child killing nazis
:S dammit lad when the hell are you gonna stop with that idiotic non-sence?
do you honestly realize how ridiculus you sound when u say that?
for the love of god, ARGENT SUN said to your face that no evidence in-game or out of the game says forsaken kill children, so.... u saying u know more about lore than him?
just about every lore expert on these forums ( experts who are both alliance side and horde side) have confirmed, and shown EXTENSIVE evidence that proves who was used in the RAS experimentation.
skreeran made a flawless post that your broken logic can't pierce proving who was experimented on by the RAS.
knock it off........
-.- jeez some plp are as stubborn as mules....
Post by
229054
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Post by
Adamsm
Aye, I can see that... of course, I still love my draenei, even if they are perfect.
Look hard enough and you find
dark
elements in all races.
So, you linked the Draenei version of the Defias... good choice Tauren lol =P.
Post by
229054
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Adamsm
Aye, I can see that... of course, I still love my draenei, even if they are perfect.
Look hard enough and you find
dark
elements in all races.
So, you linked the Draenei version of the Defias... good choice Tauren lol =P.
Who didn't sign their paychecks?
Would the Burning Blade have been a better choice?
Post by
taurenmoo812
This has become a flame fest and the purpose of the thread has ended a long time ago, even though I personally see no purpose on it - after all we are basing our criticism on personal opinions and lack of knowledge on the future.
Everyone
stop posting and let the thread die already. Specially darkton and taurenmoo who are the focus of the flame fest.
Well thats hardly fair, seen as how I started the thread to begin with.
My debate wasn't based on some farcical misrepresentation, rather based on how I saw the choices made in the lore to be a bad one. Its just then when posters twist that into something damming that it gets turned into a flame war.
Post by
Monday
This has become a flame fest and the purpose of the thread has ended a long time ago, even though I personally see no purpose on it - after all we are basing our criticism on personal opinions and lack of knowledge on the future.
Everyone
stop posting and let the thread die already. Specially darkton and taurenmoo who are the focus of the flame fest.
Well thats hardly fair, seen as how I started the thread to begin with.
My debate wasn't based on some farcical misrepresentation, rather based on how I saw the choices made in the lore to be a bad one. Its just then when posters twist that into something damming that it gets turned into a flame war.
Anything posted in L&RP turns into a flame war.
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