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cloudp
Hm. I do like the actual state of things. To be really honest, i go with Generic's point. We are not blizzard. You may call it all you want, but blizzard considers twinking a "side effect", and although they allowed it, they weren't entirely happy with it - hence the separation. Dedicating an entire server or allowing migrations to reposition twink characters does not sound very according to Blizzard minds. When you think about it, the majority of the active populations is level 80; (and to be honest, even if you built a twink and did not use a high level to boost it, most of the people who have a twink have an 80 character. It's extremely unlikely you create a twink from the first time you play World of Warcraft); thus, the -actual- twink-only population is kinda restrictive. I won't pull numbers out of nowhere, but let's get it on perspective.
You could try to appeal to published statistics on twink activity (i doubt it, highly, that blizz would allow an entire realm of twinking), and to me, although it's not a best-to-all cenario, it's a best possible and viable solution.
EDIT:
I also find amusing how my last post went unnoticed. I heard before something like "i accept when i'm wrong", but it also seemed to disolve.
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RedMosquito
As stated before I only have a problem with twinks who rolled for the specific reason of steamrolling lowbies and had no interest in competing against other twinks. I still think nominating a group as the official twink group with free transfers to that group is a fair and decent thing for blizzard to do.
But wrath as much as I disagree with you on other things, I think you have a pretty good idea with the pvp realm fix. Some problems i see with it is that Blizzard has given players a new option and a lot of them like it(xp in bgs) to take that away from them, even if it is just on pvp realms would cause more @#$%^ing than they are already hearing from the twinks. So while it may fix your problem it would create a new problem which would probably result in as many if not more negative comments than the current issue has generated. But the main thing you are not realising or perhaps ignoring is the fact that each bg is populated by an entire battlegroup which includes as many as 15 realms. In each battlegroup there are rp, pve, and pvp servers. They would have to realign all the battlegroups for this to work, what kind of problems would this create? I assume they assmembled these groups for some logisitic reason and didnt just pull names out of a hat, I doubt they would be eager to redo the whole thing just appease homeless twinks.
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RedMosquito
The solution of putting BG experience in has only created a hybrid. This gain was specifically made becuase of the access to heirlooms and for this reason alone we now have the gain in BG's.
Players keep these forever so level to 16 in a few hours, run your few instances in another few hours. Using BOP & Heirlooms with enchants. Bang a Toon who will now play about 300-500 BG's from 16-20. Delete and do again and again. Lowbies will still get pawned why because it is fun and becuase I can and will.
The statisic's of who this helped and who it hasn't speaks for itself and those new ingame levelers have even lost a population of guilds and of players who join BG's and instances.
You honestly telling me they don't care that they have lost 3-5 year accounts over someone just creating one. You must not appreciate economic's or something seriously?
The simplest and easiest solution allow the gain remover to work in every BG's. There will alway be players better at a game then the rest and without physically altering the gear the enchants. This will go on forever.
If you really have enough time and gold on your hands to relevel twinks to 19 over and over just to continue owning undergeared players in a meaningless bracket that no one takes seriously go for it. But that is just one bracket I doubt people will be as eager to do this in 29's and even less so in 39's and up, the time investment for something as pointless as this is too much.
I do think Blizzard cares if they lose money from even one twink account and maybe they will try to do something to help you guys out, but not at the cost of aggravating even more people. I still think the amount of people who care about twinking to the point of boycotting is slim, but I have no data to support that feeling just as you have no data to support the opposite.
The statement"There will alway be players better at a game then the rest" is patently absurd when used in this context. Your being better or worse in this game at level 19 is almost purely and completely gear dependent. Your bought gear and enchants give you a huge advantage over someone with lesser gear/enchants it has nothing to do with your leet skillz or lack of them. If i were to go play unreal tournament right now I would get my ass handed to me, but i would be using the same exact guns and powerups that the guy killing me was using and i could not offer a single honest complaint about the game being fair. You can not use that argument in regards to wow especially considering the bracket your referring to.
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RedMosquito
In fact I am not whining about anything, I actually like the game. Your the one with the qq a mile long, and its quite pathetic that someone with such disdain for a video game doesnt just leave it and find something else to play especially considering that you have to pay a monthly fee. There are plenty of games out there with aimbots wallhacks and the like, I'm sure you can find one that is as easily exploitable as wow used to be, and maybe save 15 bucks to boot!
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RedMosquito
Grow up? I'm stupid? You cant even form a proper sentence. My arguments might ring more true if you could actually understand the words I write. You should leave wow, and go straight to English class. My opinions may be one sided but how are they anymore one sided than yours? Wait don't answer that I wont be able to decipher your gibberish anyway.
But again I'll say, you continue to pay 15$ a month for a game you don't even like, who is stupid now?
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Hadrial
red.. you actually make me feel really bad about myself right now.
Two months into wotlk release I was decked out in t7.5 (druid btw) and things were great for a month or 2, being top always feels good. The original hard modes were fun intially (1d-3d sath). But then ulduar came out, new badges, new raids, whole new set-up. It felt like a total waste of time to do the whole thing over again. Took a long break from WoW (5-6 months?). 80 pvp is retarded, whats the point of even trying when you can get 2-4 shot by almost every class?
Then I noticed that bg xp was being enabled, so I bought another month, made a few alts and decked them out in boa gear and half quested half bg'd. (no intention of reaching 80).
Like you said, I Obliterate 85% of the players in the 10-19,20-29 brackets, usually only takes about until halfway when the ownage can start, lvls 14/16 and 24 respectivly. So for awhile i've just been casually owning bgs and destroying the competition.
I feel bad, I never thought about/intended to ruin peoples first experiences/first month of WoW, im only there because I personally hate level 80 and 1-60 has always been my favorite part of the game. I dont think I can actually go back on my "pvp" alts.
I feel like such a ^&*!@#bag.
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Hadrial I dont care if you steamroll lowbies, I also dont care if lokatum does the same or wrath or any of you. I just think the twinks are being a little two faced. They claimed they wanted to fight twink on twink, they werent in it to wtfpwn lesser geared players they just liked low level pvp, less time constraints I guess, maybe the simplicity of the toons at that level appealed to them whatever they're reasoning might have been, fine with me. Blizzard gives you the ability to twink in peace with no worries about xp ever again, your own battlegrounds for god's sake and what happened? The majority of em went into hiding and the rest seem to infest the forums demanding the old way back. Just stfu I guess is how I feel about the situation. There were plenty of twinks in every battlegroup, and had they remained you all wouldve been able to get games going round the clock, it only takes 20 players for a full wsg. But like the cowards they apparently are they chose not to play anymore because the cannon fodder wasnt going to be there to pad their precious HK total. Youve got no one to blame but your own niche community and I really dont care if you all cancel your accounts. Im through posting in this thread, its a waste of time.
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