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Time travel? Or just blizz being lazy?
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Adamsm
Just like how they probably won't ever kill off Illidan.He's dead though; we help Maiev kill him, and he makes a comment about his death to her as he dies......
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Frames
You guys are viewing this through the eyes of a level 80. To a whole new player, Ragnaros is still being summoned in MC, Illidan is still hiding like a @#$%^ in Black Temple, Kael'thas has yet to make his second comeback, you get where im going with this. The story progresses from whatever level your character is. So a fresh level 55 DK is still under the control of the Lich King until the events of Light Hope's Chapel, regardless if your level 80 main is beating on Deathwing's big toe.
This.
You Level is also your time period.
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You Level is also your time period.
Hooray! More people that gets it \o/
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Kimil
Thread necromancy - I read all 4 pages and still don't understand how any of this makes sense.
You say 'your level is your time' but take the undead for example. At level 1-20 in Tirisfal and Silverpine, you're lamenting the LK's death, the arrival of free Val'kyr to help the Forsaken to 'reproduce', and Putress and Varithramas are long dead. Yet when you go to Northrend at 68+, Arthas is alive again, as are Putress and Varithramas...and their Wrathgate/Undercity betrayal, which is already long concluded, happens again in Dragonblight...even though they're dead.
You can see Undercity's orc occupation long before the event that causes it even occurs on your screen.
They've added a lot of quest dialogue to Silverpine to categorically state, about 100 times, that Worgen are immune to being resurrected. They make a massive point of repeatedly saying that humans, including those who fled the plague bombing of Southshore and fled to Fenris Isle, opted to rather take the Worgen curse than allow themselves to die human and be resurrected.
Yet we have Worgen DKs. I guess you could argue 'the Lich King had more powerful necromancy than Sylvannas and he could resurrect Worgen but she's not powerful enough to'. But then I'd counter that with 'but that was the Val'kyr, which Sylvannas has now inherited a number of...so they should work no differently.
Please can someone explain to me how you're suppose to level as an undead and make any sense of any of this?
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skumbananer
Isn´t a Worgen DK a "old" Worgen, from the old Arugal shadowfang keep-breed? LK raised Arugal and took him to Grizzly Hills in Wrath where he spread lycanthropy among the humans there, so maybe the DK-Worgens are a different thing
The Old Worgens could be ressurected and Undead (they can even come as Undead adds in the "new" Shadowfang keep) so im guessing Worgen DKs are just that, the old breed of worgens in undeath.
Not particularly knowledgeable about alliance lore though, someday i will make a ally alt and manage to level it beyond 10 to learn about the ally storylines.
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Adamsm
Thread necromancy - I read all 4 pages and still don't understand how any of this makes sense.
You say 'your level is your time' but take the undead for example. At level 1-20 in Tirisfal and Silverpine, you're lamenting the LK's death, the arrival of free Val'kyr to help the Forsaken to 'reproduce', and Putress and Varithramas are long dead. Yet when you go to Northrend at 68+, Arthas is alive again, as are Putress and Varithramas...and their Wrathgate/Undercity betrayal, which is already long concluded, happens again in Dragonblight...even though they're dead.
You can see Undercity's orc occupation long before the event that causes it even occurs on your screen.
They've added a lot of quest dialogue to Silverpine to categorically state, about 100 times, that Worgen are immune to being resurrected. They make a massive point of repeatedly saying that humans, including those who fled the plague bombing of Southshore and fled to Fenris Isle, opted to rather take the Worgen curse than allow themselves to die human and be resurrected.
Yet we have Worgen DKs. I guess you could argue 'the Lich King had more powerful necromancy than Sylvannas and he could resurrect Worgen but she's not powerful enough to'. But then I'd counter that with 'but that was the Val'kyr, which Sylvannas has now inherited a number of...so they should work no differently.
Please can someone explain to me how you're suppose to level as an undead and make any sense of any of this?
Death Knights were raised up by the Lich King as you said; plain old Necromancy is shown to work just fine on Worgen, it's only the Valk version that doesn't work...but then again, it doesn't work on any non-humans which is why the 7th Legion is sent to help Gilneas.
How to make sense of it: You have to give into suspension of disbelief. When you level in Outland and Northrend, you are not fighting the original war, the one that was active at the time of the expansion, you are fighting the left overs that just happen to look like the originals. Each time an expac comes out, it's over writes the original story since the story changes and alters. Yes, the 'new' Cata zones take place before Outland and Northrend, but hey what can you do since Blizzard doesn't really want to remake each of them over and over again...after all, look what happened with Cata; so many complaints about the reuse.
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