Haste and PvP: a cap or stack trough the roof ?

Post by Kramp

I am currently leveling a mage mainly for PvP.

I'll probably stick to BGs and 2v2 ( as mage/rogue ) so it seems that a mix of high PvE gear ( 4xT10 for the Mirror Images burst ) with Relentless off pieces looks the way to go.

Haste seems a excellent stat but can it be stacked ( after hit/sp caps ) or a certain cap ( I saw 380 on AJ but there was no justifications on that number ) should be obtained then stack SP ?

Thanks in advance.

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Post by StrangerWifCandy

Best situation is if you have enough haste to do two frostbolts and then an Ice Lance inside of one Deep Freeze while you have Icy Veins, on a target that has 30% stun time reduction, like priests (actually I think priests are the only one with 30%, everyone else's talents only go up to 20%).

Considering you use one GCD to apply Deep Freeze, and you need to get three spells off, only two of these triggering GCD, the formula for figuring this out is as follows.

Duration of Deep Freeze = Length of GCD + 2*(Frostbolt Casts)

5*(0.7) = (1.5 / (haste * 1.2) ) + 2*(2.3 / (haste * 1.2) )

where haste = 1+((haste rating/32.79)/100)

The ice lance follows the second frostbolt instantly, so the GCD doesn't factor into the equation because we only use it once, at the very end of the rotation.

Now I just whip out my calculator, and figure out that we need a contributing haste factor of 1.33765, or roughly 34% haste, which is exactly 1107.165 haste rating, to two frostbolts and an Ice Lance on a DF'd priest, with Icy Veins up.

Of course there's the option to go above and beyond 1107 haste, but past getting in a long and complex nuke on one class in the entire game, there's really no point.

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Post by StrangerWifCandy

Great information Stranger, so can you tell us what amount of haste would be needed before we pop icy veins? What I mean is whats the number Im looking for on my character sheet when Icy Veins isn't running.

Also does the troll racial stack with IV cuz if it does I may just have to pay for a race change.

Yes, Berserking stacks with IV. If you're a troll, if you pop racial+IV at the same time, you only need 617 haste to do 2xFrB+IL on a DF'd priest. On that note, if you're NOT a troll, you can just get your priest partner to give you Power Infusion, and you'll need the same amount (PI is 20%, same as Berserking).

To do 2xFrB+IL in 3.8 seconds WITHOUT Icy Veins, we're looking at 2330 haste rating needing, lol.

Haste and PvP: a cap or stack trough the roof ?

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