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So with the new poison changes, would this be a viable combat spec?
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I wouldn't say we rely on it, but it's one of our biggest sources of energy.
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RS it's really huge, when it was only a single point talent in assasination it was mandatory, and even after the big nerf (5points to have the same effect) i have yet to see a spec without it perform on par with others (apart from muti swapping poisons, but it's going to die next patch).
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Actually, the math that has been done at EJ today shows that 20/51/0 will be better in any way than regular 1x/51/x.
At BiS, it is a 1700+ dps increase for Mutilate builds, and 700+ dps increase for Combat builds.
It has also been calculated that the AP cap after which IP > WP is (for an 1,5-speed OH) is 2.7k. Pretty easy to achieve.
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Actually, the math that has been done at EJ today shows that 20/51/0 will be better in any way than regular 1x/51/x.
At BiS, it is a 1700+ dps increase for Mutilate builds, and 700+ dps increase for Combat builds.
It has also been calculated that the AP cap after which IP > WP is (for an 1,5-speed OH) is 2.7k. Pretty easy to achieve.
will be nice if you can link the info? (sorry for some reason i can't enter the EJ atm=/)
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Link:
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t64665-incoming_rogue_changes_discussion/p26/#post1463347
Now done the maths
It looks like combat rogues will switch to instant on the mainhand at certain gear levels:
This based on 4200AP:
Instant poison = 300+(0.1*AP)= 720 @ 7ppm
Wound poison = 231+(0.04*AP)= 399 @ 20ppm
Taking a 1.5speed weapon in the offhand:
60/1.5=40 hits a minute
at a 30% proc rate on deadly:
40*0.30 = 12ppm (OH deadly)
Without the change:
Instant: 720*7=5040 damage per minute
Wound: 399*20=7980 damage per minute
With the change:
Instant: 720*(7+12)=13680 damage per minute
Wound: 399*(20+12)=12768 damage per minute
And the relevant breakpoints (accurate to within ~10AP):
With a 1.6 speed weapon in the OH the breakpoint is 3030AP (after this IP pulls ahead)
With a 1.5 speed weapon in the OH the breakpoint is 2730AP (after this IP pulls ahead)
With a 1.4 speed weapon in the OH the breakpoint is 2435AP (after this IP pulls ahead)
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