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Post by
pezz
Guys, let up. We all know the number three can be smaller than the number two when we
feel
like it might be, or when no one else can
prove
that three's actually a bigger number, or when they can but I'm too dumb to understand the calculations that show three is larger than two.
Also, didn't you guys read the 3.2.2 patch notes? Blizzard made all of the talents largely arbitrary, but buffed your character based on how few other people took the same talents.
Post by
Quest
I heard in patch 3.4 they are going to move from formulas and equations that makes the game work now to fruits and vegetables. This is an effort to give better meaning to the talent-tree system.
Post by
pezz
Also if you wipe half way through naxx KT comes out and says 'good try guys, have some epics anyway!' and everyone gets at least one free piece of i213 gear. 245 if everyone has some kind of 0/71/0 spec.
Post by
zoomie
Also if you wipe half way through naxx KT comes out and says 'good try guys, have some epics anyway!' and everyone gets at least one free piece of i213 gear. 245 if everyone has some kind of 0/71/0 spec.
Yep! The good players who can actually kill bosses get their gear the normal old fashioned way, but the terrible stupid retarded dumbass idiot players who do everything wrong and wonder why they can't kill bosses get even better gear for being so bad. It is blizzards way of proving that skill>gear. If you have skill, you get gear normally. If you have no skill, they dump all the really good gear on you to suppliment your lack of skill that would wouldn't have otherwise got.
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Post by
TheJohan
Beeing able to tank heroics with SoC does not proove that your a good tank.
Tanking raids with SoC and not loosing aggro does not proove that its a viable spec.
Fact of the matter is, if you put a point in SoC, you drop a point somewhere wher it could be of better use, since you get more threat and damage from SoV. Thus you are not performing at your peak (wich sometimes is not nessesary ofcorse).
But the point here is: No matter how high or low skills you have, two equally skilled paladins, the one using SoV will outperform the one that does not. A lesser geared paladin using SoV will outperform (or perform equally to) a higher geared paladin using SoC.
Also: Gear the guy in blue ilvl >=200 and bring him to a heroic, and see how he performs. Thats where you separate the wheat from the chaff.
Post by
Quest
That's not the point of this thread. We are talking about someone who is doing their job perfectly fine for the content they are attempting, but going about it in a way which doesn't conform to the
theoretical
best possible setup.
No no he should ware PvP gear in PvE.
SOME
times it will give better results!
To heck with theory! DERP DEE DURP!
Post by
blademeld
I think holorob is trying a bit too much.
Post by
pezz
There's no shame in admitting you're wrong sometimes.
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Post by
MischievousLoki
wow, im gone for what? 2 Days and all the experts are ranting about theorycrafting etc etc
LOLWUT?
what is wow again?
A GAME
chill dawgs
Some people enjoy games differently than others. That includes theorycrafters.
Don't hate.
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Post by
Sokur
You came here to rant and rave about your friend, the killer tank. Is he using
Glyph of Seal of Vengeance
while using SoC? Is he Expertise capped without it? If he is then he's wasting gems on it when he could be stacking avoidance or stam. You said yourself he's an awesome
Heroic
tank, that's not at all difficult, even for a brand new 80. Get over your bro crush and go farm those emblems, I am.
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328121
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Post by
Quest
Tanking raids with SoC and not loosing aggro does not proove that its a viable spec.
Haven't you got that a bit backwards? Surely if it is working, it is viable. That's what viable means, "able to work as intended or able to succeed" If he is able to tank with it, it is by definition viable. Just not optimal.
No no he should ware PvP gear in PvE. SOMEtimes it will give better results!
To heck with theory! DERP DEE DURP!
That would depend on what PvE gear the person has. But sure if you want to discount all resilience gear pure on the fact it has resislience, then that's your choice. If wearing PvP gear means the tank can get to def cap, or a DPS can do more dmg, I think they are correct in doing so.
To heck with logic! DERP DEE DURP!
You're good at this part!
Also, no, they arnt correct in doing so, it means they need proper gear, and they are crutch it along until then. If we had more people like you around, no one would improve in anything. Stop being a bad.
Youre that old man type stuck in his ways with an old black and white 13 inch mono TV poking everyone with a cain telling them ITS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME IT SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!11. Yeah well buddy, me and alot of other people want to watch insertfavshowhere in HD on a 72 inch widescreen with 7.1 surround.
Post by
pezz
If we had more people like you around, no one would improve in anything. Stop being a bad.
QFT. I've never been a fan of people who get defensive around progress.
Post by
Quest
If we had more people like you around, no one would improve in anything. Stop being a bad.
QFT. I've never been a fan of people who get defensive around progress.
What if they are tanks?
zing!
Post by
pezz
Oh God how on earth did I walk into that one so bad.
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