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Big arena nerf on undead, ( Wotf got nerfed )
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spcmack
Thats a pretty solid move there dez, it allows you more freedom to help the rogue and mage in offensive situations, now not only can you run towards the healer and fear bomb anyone off of the rogue, and interupt the healers casts at the same time, but you can torrent and silence his next attempt to heal. Since your already popping fear ward, that is probably the best move for your team.
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spcmack
oh i think that was probably a waste on the rogues part. He is going to miss wotf every 45 seconds after his trinket me thinks. For you, i think it was probably a solid move, with fear ward balancing you out anyway. The rogue would of been better off orc i think. or staying undead. The orc would of given him the additional burst at least. Overall, i still would of stayed undead on the rogue. Dont get me wrong, mine is a belf, but its because i didnt know then what i know now lol. I might actually race swap him from belf to undead...depends on a couple things, like can you cannibalize in arenas? that has win written all over it.
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cloudp
FFS. This much fuss for a specific mechanic removal tool? It breaks Priest spells (Fear/MC), a single warrior ability, a Warlock's fear (which isn't as game breaking as it once was) and a Hunter's Sleep. That's it. The 45s cooldown sounds more like being the result of a lot of QQ than being a real change.
EMFH should imo really have a higher cooldown than Medallion. Not a stupid 10min, 3min could be more reasonable. It would fix the scale problem, because higher arena ratings would still go for the good old 2min lifesaver, because matches last so much longer, but on lower brackets, humans could use EMFH as a balance to their lack of stats. It sounds to me like people would still complain though... Lower brackets tend to have much more QQers (It is not entirely a bad concept - lower backets are very luck based - RNG plays a lot more here.
Arcane Torrent and War Stomp win over both on faster matches, or to support CC chains. As most teams have healers or mana using casters, AT and WS are usefull on every single match.
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Lightrain
You guys QQ about the wrong things.
Added dps, added, sp, added haste, added healing. That's what racials are supposed to do. You are crying about 1 priest with access to the best gear in the game. QQ more please. EMFH might be slightly more powerful than other racials, but so what? Does it ALTER their play style? No.
The only racial imbalance I care about are racials that are tools to help people survive, kill other's cooldowns and kill people that their skill/gear level shouldn't be able to.
The only 2 racials I think are OP are arcane torrent and Cowstomp. WotF is boarderline OP, but nerfing it doesn't kill UD, just makes them have to learn to play like everyone else. Perception is the only other possibly "OP" racial, since they have a better chance of catching people in stealth than any other race.
I like EMFH, it helps in PvE and PvP as well as for leveling and getting jumped by noob horde. OP? Meh, depends on what trinkets they have access to. BM trinket combined with a good trinket is NOT OP and is what the vast majority of people have access to.
Now, as for your QQ. Stop! Don't post unless you actually have something useful or new to contribute. QQ'ing about a guy with Heroic and non heroic trinkets that just happen to stack is like QQ'ing because some warrior is wearing 3 pieces of heroic PvE gear and is Arp capped just because he has access to high content and "that's just retardedly OP! Why do raiders have such an advantage over non raiders! QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ!"
Good luck crying yourself to sleep at night. Until you get over that, stop posting stupidity please....
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Lightrain
this is not hard to understand - humans can have two offensive trinkets. because they do.NOT. need a insignia to negate impairing effects because of EMFH. Horde races DO need a defensive insignia. = they only have one offensive trinket. as Nox is saying, when EMFH first came out, people thought it was bull%^&*. because why should humans be able to have two trinkets + a snare breaker.... now this is combined with the nerf of WOTF , and undead/hordies are #$%^ed off, this isn't hard to understand/
the other issues, as brought up, is undead now have among the worst racials in the game. WOTF was the main reason, besides aesthetics, why someone would roll UD for PVP. now everyone might as well go BE for the silence. or ORC for inc. AP grr orc smash.
i think most of the people in here who are thinking this is justified are players who roll humans, or people who don't understand game mechanics.
I think someone's bitter.
You still have your trinket and WotF, you just can't use both back to back. I do agree that they should have an offensive or better defensive racial, but if you can't see why this got nerfed, you "don't understand game mechanics."
The reason for this nerf was to make it so UD rogues aren't the end all priest killers who can remove all CC at the start of the match and just overpower them in a gib blowing all cooldowns. I think they should have an UD frenzy that increases their haste for a a short amount of time or make WotF shorten fear effects by 20% passively. Something along those lines.
Not being restricted to other race's problems is cause for a nerf. Same as Cowstomp and Belf queef IMO. The racials are OP reguardless how you cut it. The problem is half of you horde aren't smart enough to take advantage.
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Splitisoda
I love how even though everyone on Horde KNOWS their racials dominated Vanilla + BC, they still think they have a right to complain in WoTLk. Get over it, Human Racial is about to get nerfed soon. I hope people realize (last time I checked,) horde dominate the top arena teams, and I doubt its because of skill, but probably because Horde in General have better racials. ZOMGALLIANCEHASONERACEWITHADECENTRACIAl KILL IT KILL IT
Get over yourselves. Alliance will be nerfed soon, for now let Humans have their fun with their racial. Or, Catalism will nerf it, and probably once again Horde will dominate in the racial position.
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I love how even though everyone on Horde KNOWS their racials dominated Vanilla + BC, they still think they have a right to complain in WoTLk. Get over it,
What sort of childish reasoning is this? Group 1 had it once, so group 2 deserves it now? Uh, balancing doesn't work like that, I'm afraid, the idea is that, you know, it's
balanced
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