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Post by
TheMediator
Been there, philosophized that.
Also, I thought a similar thread of sorts regarding this was made?
You say that like you know some solution to this. The only "solution" that I see is to give up, become the cow, and forget you ever took a glance into the forest beyond the clearing.
Post by
kattib
Lecks living is enough for some but we humans have been blessed (or cursed) by the need to look beyond just that, consider it the human condition
Post by
Interest
Been there, philosophized that.
Also, I thought a similar thread of sorts regarding this was made?
You say that like you know some solution to this
. The only "solution" that I see is to give up, become the cow, and forget you ever took a glance into the forest beyond the clearing.
No...I actually did believe the theory you stated was true...the thought dwelled in my mind for quite some time.
Then a couple years later I realized I might as well live out life and see what happens, Terry Goodkind saw to that.
Post by
Lecks
Lecks living is enough for some but we humans have been blessed (or cursed) by the need to look beyond just that, consider it the human condition
Then it seems I've been exempt of that gift (or curse), as I have no need to explore. I don't fear or purposely avoid new things, but I don't feel compelled to seek them out either.
Different philosophies, I suppose. :)
Post by
kattib
Well lecks then I pity you, I consider being able to care a blessing and it allows one to actually truly enjoy life. You think the cow is happy? I doubt that, the cow's capacity to think is, "hey I am alive, I have food, thats great" and it doesnt go past that
Post by
TheMediator
It depends on how you define happiness. One of those definitions includes contentment. I would say cows are nearly perfectly content with their living condition (I suppose it makes sense that one would wish to reincarnate into something so blissfully ignorant).
Anyways, I wouldn't say that someone who treats the frontiers of the unknown like a zoo, taking a peek once a year for amusement, someone who truly
sees
beyond. Cows can see the trees in the forest beyond, but they don't know what's out there.
Post by
Queggy
they probably don't (or can't) think of themselves at all.
Lolwut? You say animals can't think (which is true). Yet before that you say that we are basically animals. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Post by
Orranis
Religion FTW. Gives meaning to your life.
OOooh... So arguable. May I? Please?
Post by
TheMediator
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
animals can't think
Figure I might as well make a quick jab while I can.
Also, I like how you just glaze over "mostly". Many people might as well not have that thinking capacity, since they don't use it (deciding whether to buy milk or orange juice isn't thinking, dogs can decide what tastes better to them and choose it).
Post by
Queggy
Religion FTW. Gives meaning to your life.
OOooh... So arguable. May I? Please?
Go ahead. But of course I'll just reply that since you don't believe in it, it will provide no meaning for you. Faith is the answer.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
DOES NOT COMPUTE.
animals can't think
Figure I might as well make a quick jab while I can.
Also, I like how you just glaze over "mostly". Many people might as well not have that thinking capacity, since they don't use it (deciding whether to buy milk or orange juice isn't thinking, dogs can decide what tastes better to them and choose it).
However, know
that
you can make a decision is thinking.
Post by
Orranis
Though actually I believe that with few rare exceptions of true happiness and too many exceptions of the opposite, how happy you are is always relative, and the rich spoiled kids struggling to be socially accepted have it as hard as the kids in the ghetto being beaten up after school from the first person, but once it becomes third person one is always harder then the other.
Post by
Queggy
Many people might as well not have that thinking capacity, since they don't use it (deciding whether to buy milk or orange juice isn't thinking, dogs can decide what tastes better to them and choose it).
True, but can dogs tell what chemical components are in milk and orange juice? Do dogs know where they come from? Do dogs know how to obtain milk or orange juice?
Also, I like how you just glaze over "mostly"
you say that we are
basically
animals.
Anyways, I'm going to bed, so I'll look at this in the morning.
Post by
TheMediator
True, but can dogs tell what chemical components are in milk and orange juice? Do dogs know where they come from? Do dogs know how to obtain milk or orange juice?
How many people care about where their milk comes from? For the majority, I would say that as long as they get their milk, they're content (hell, I'll admit that even I rarely consider where the food that I eat and the clothes that I wear are from or the effort that went into producing the finished product - I just use the product).
I'm not saying that people don't have the capacity to think, they clearly do. However, judging something based on its potential is ridiculous - it is action that is truly defining.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
All things are judged by their potential. If you saw a rock reciting Shakespeare, you would know there is something going on, because there is nothing in the rock to make reciting Shakespeare possible. Knowing what a thing can do is a basis by which we can judge what it is doing. Why do you call a person dumb? Because he's not living up the the intellectual potential he could be.
Post by
TheMediator
Why do you call a person dumb? Because he's not living up the the intellectual potential he could be.
Yes, but he's dumb not because of the potential that he has, but because he doesn't act towards that potential. It is that action or inaction that defines them.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Why do you call a person dumb? Because he's not living up the the intellectual potential he could be.
Yes, but he's dumb not because of the potential that he has, but because he doesn't act towards that potential. It is that action or inaction that defines them.
In other words, you need know
both
before a judgment can be made.
Post by
73830
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Post by
Squishalot
Also, I like how you just glaze over "mostly". Many people might as well not have that thinking capacity, since they don't use it (deciding whether to buy milk or orange juice isn't thinking, dogs can decide what tastes better to them and choose it).
However, know
that
you can make a decision is thinking.
i.e. Consciousness? Have we ever proved that animals don't have consciousness?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
i agree, i hate humans and everyone of them. all humans are worthless and contribute nothing to the world. i think humans just sit around and do nothing, like make trivial threads.
sometimes people cant do anything about problems, sometimes they dont want to. they block it out, expand their problems until they cant see anything behind them.
Then you'll agree your post doesn't contribute to this thread.
i.e. Consciousness? Have we ever proved that animals don't have consciousness?
How are you defining consciousness? There are many variation, and animals do fall under several definitions.
And I haven't left the political debate. Power went out last night, and I've been mulling it all over today.
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