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asakawa
PTR simcraft
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asakawa
hmm, not sure i agree.
i can't see much precedence for a non-stacking talent like that (ie you can get either talent but you're only getting max 3%) and if you're suggesting they stack then that's clearly a big change and not something that is likely to happen in a patch.
you can't please all of the people all of the time and those hybrids are pretty much the only builds that absolutely can't take 3 points in affliction. consider those builds simply as aimed at those who can easily achieve the hard cap and play something else if you're having hit trouble. the fact that these decisions are all synergistic and have knock-on effects makes them interesting.
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asakawa
so you want the affliction talent to only apply to aff spells and the destro one to only apply to destro spells again? because that was so far from ideal, especially for demo specs.
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asakawa
why should it be that easy?
why should affliction be the tree that only deep affliction players spec ANY points into?
this provides us with interesting decisions - you're making one yourself. you shouldn't be too quick to try and lose this stuff because, although it might not seem like it at the time, it's what makes the game fun. it's the decisions we make that define our experience of the game. you like 41/30 but it has this drawback so you have to compensate or look for other specs that give you more freedom.
this is all very healthy stuff for a game like this.
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lucius
53/0/18 -- can grab cataclysm
0/53/18 -- can grab cataclysm
Except neither spec can really afford losing the extra points. I thought it was bad enough that all specs are required to spend 15 points in Destruction, I certainly wouldn't add to that.
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asakawa
quite so and with the push to the felhunter in 3.3 we're moving over to 55/0/15+1
on live points in cataclysm would mean losing a fairly small amount of pet dps from the succubus, on the ptr we'd have to drop the felhunter talents and lose a lot more (FH now does more than a doomguard!).
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asakawa
/lol @ "philosophical high horse"
/sigh @ your unwillingness to engage in a discussion that touches on broader topics and your feeling the need to attack those who find your points interesting and want to discuss the further ramifications.
go go dumbed down forum communities!
call it bias, call it philosophy or call it being on a high-horse, i just gave my opinion on the points you raised. i happen to disagree but that doesn't matter. how is this different to any other discussion on this or any other forum?
i'm just saying that i imagine this is the kind of thing that the game devs will think about regarding talents like this. if all the options amounted to the same thing then they really aren't options at all are they? we'd have a very stagnant game.
i like destro but wish i could get master conjurer. one gives 3% hit, the other gives much more than 3% haste. we've imposed the hit requirements on ourselves, the game gives us the option to forsake hit completely for other stats if we wish.
you can't have everything you want. you have to make choices. embrace it.
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