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Post by
Adamsm
The Mogu
; hm, after reading the notes...looks like we may have another Forged race, to go with the Vrykul, Dwarves and Gnomes.
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588688
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Post by
Adamsm
I don't know about that, since we see Gnomes living in houses in Dun Morogh....there's also the fact that the area outside of Gnomer is a village as well and implied that Gnomes lived there too...since you know.....
Newer History
:The first widely recorded interaction between gnomes and dwarves occurred a little over 200 years prior to The Burning Crusade. As the story goes, a dwarven explorer came across a small gnomish village. He was shocked to discover that while dwarves had just discovered gunpowder, the gnomes already had a fully automated village with such novelties as mechanical chickens. Contact between the two races grew, and soon, they became quick allies, and the dwarves allowed the gnomes to build their capital city, Gnomeregan, in the foothills of Dun Morogh, near the Dwarven capital, Ironforge. It is, however, somewhat odd that the gnomes could be "discovered" like this when an intellectual represent for the gnomish race were among the members of a human organization more than 2600 years ago (see Legacy below). This possibly implies a retcon.
Thriving within the wondrous techno-city of Gnomeregan, the gnomes shared the resources of the forested Dun Morogh peaks with their dwarven cousins. Though dwarves also have a propensity for technology and engineering, it is gnomes who provide the critical, visionary designs for most of dwarven weapons and steam vehicles. It's possible that the area in Gnomer was some type of dorm, but that doesn't mean everyone lived there.
Post by
Rankkor
Then there's the fact that you can count with 1 hand how many cities in wow look like........ya know..... CITIES.
Have you seen a single HOME (a building that is not a store, not a blackmithing, not a shop, not anything but a simple home) in orgrimmar? Undercity? Silvermoon? Exodar? Darnassus? Heck, the Tinker Town itself in ironforge looks like a place to live? no?
Just because we don't see living spaces in gnomergan doesn't mean gnomes like to live in hive-like communities.
After all, as adamsm said, there is a village above gnomeregan. Warcraft is (as many videogames) a place were we gotta separate what we see in-game from what happens in lore.
After all, Stonard is just 3 buildings and a fence made of thin sticks in the game. On lore its the biggest Horde city on the southern part of the eastern kingdoms.
and as I've said it multiple times before: Goldshire is just 1 inn, 1 blacksmith building, and 1 small house with at most 20 NPCs in the game. Yet in lore its a HUGE frikking village with over 5000 people living in it.
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Post by
Adamsm
Maybe, it could've just been a dorm for some school in gnomeregan. It's just the fact that no other discernible homes in gnomeregan exist.
And the same can be said for the Night Elves, the Forsaken, the Blood Elves, the Draenei etc etc etc.
Post by
Morec0
Gnomergon does have a
Dormitory
- though I'm assuming that's what caused this whole debate. I'd agree with the idea that gnomes lived together like that because it would have allowed them to be closer to other inventors and share their ideas IF NOT for the fact we have New Tinkertown and its buildings clearly designed to house just one gnome each. Even in smaller communities, if they did live in full-on dorms we would see large buildings designed like what we percive as inns. However, there are no such gnomish structures.
Post by
Adamsm
Yeah, Sold's comment comes from the Official forum by someone who thinks that the entire Gnome population was squeezed into just that location.
Post by
Rankkor
Maybe, it could've just been a dorm for some school in gnomeregan. It's just the fact that no other discernible homes in gnomeregan exist.
again, the same issue can be seen in Orgrimmar, Undercity, Silvermoon, Exodar, Darnassus, Its simple gameplay-vs-story segregation.
As I said before,
Goldshire
Is supossed to be the home of over 7000 people. Yet in-game there's only 1 inn, 1 blacksmith shop, and 1 small home with just 1 bedroom, and barely 25 NPCs live there.
Just because we don't see any actual living quarters or anything resembling a home in places like Orgrimmar, Silvermoon, Darnassus, Exodar, Undercity, Gnomeregan, Crossroads, Goldshire, or Stonard, does NOT means nobody lives there, or that everyone lives in a hive-community with a comunal bedroom and all.
In-game geography isn't the same as the lore. Cuz if we get down to it, did you saw a single bedroom in greymane's mansion on Gilneas? no? does that means everyone just lives in the living room? of course not, its just that ingame isn't the same as lore.
Did you saw any actual living quarters in the Howling Oak? (AKA: Worgen district on Darnassus) nope, they are all huddled on the ground floor. Does that means every single survivor of gilneas is crammed up into that confined space with no bedrooms, no washrooms, no nothing? of course not.
Don't be silly my boy :P
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588688
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Post by
Adamsm
They don't do that because it's not really that important in game...and would also cause more issues with frame rate and the like. As for Stormwind and Ironforge; considering the sizes of the population, there should be hundreds if not thousands of more homes in both cities. Remember, Lore Azeroth is bigger then game Azeroth.
Post by
Rankkor
but ya, they should make more discernable living places in more towns and cities
they rarely do that except on the most necesary cases. Other than stormwind ironforge, and thunderbluff, there aren't many capitals or villages that display ACTUAL homes. Its just a waste of space.
If they had to recreate Azeroth 100% as its depicted in lore, not only this game would weight terabytes, it would take real-time months to cross from one side of the continent to another.
That's hardly the ideal outcome ya know? So, the solution is to compress things, and we gotta use our imagination.
Post by
Rankkor
Good god, Blood Elves are
SO
AWESOME
best race in the whole damn game :P not even the pandarens will make me reroll. No way no how.
Post by
Gone
Jeez are the L&RP forums dead lately or what?
Post by
Rankkor
I'm afraid that unlike the quite polarizing WOTLK expansion, this one was quite lacking on the Lore department, and only managed to unite the fans in a rare moment of collective hatred (or at the very least, dislike)
it just felt quite "Meh" and there isn't anything real worthy of discussing.
Post by
Morec0
I'm afraid that unlike the quite polarizing WOTLK expansion, this one was quite lacking on the Lore department, and only managed to unite the fans in a rare moment of collective hatred (or at the very least, dislike)
it just felt quite "Meh" and there isn't anything real worthy of discussing.
^ that, not to mention it's over, leaving what little lore discission it offered answered and done. As for the RP's everyone seems to have grown disfond of them, and they've all but shut down for the moment. Same applies to fan fics, no one feels like writting any.
My biggest fear is that due to lack of regular postings this board will get re-merged with General, or some other.
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588688
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Post by
keyur
Actually what kind of power Demon Soul have? We know about frostmourne power etc. I know its made from all aspect powers but still any specific powers like frostmourne?
Post by
Adamsm
Kills things and forcibly controlled any of the Flights but the Black.
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