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Post by
taurenmoo812
hey taurenmoo look at my sig =}
Something tells me most alliances are incapable of making decent cookies. But thats just opinion.. oh screw it, there aweful, get that goblin in shattrath to cook them!
Post by
Skreeran
Trioin risked his hide for a orc, how many times do you see the horde out of thier way for the alliance? You never do. Soild truth as that.Eitrigg saved Tirion. Thrall spared Sergeant, the Foxtons, Langston, and a buttload of civilians. Thrall also sent people to go save Magni's daughter. Valeera saved Anduin. 'Nuff said.
At the Trail of the Crusaders, I would say Varian was the best. He was cheering the Alliance on to victroy, while Jaina and Thrall sit back, ignoring the conflict, and then we have Garrosh shouting insults and death threats; and as usual, Thrall does nothing.Thrall does cheer when you play Horde. Conversely, Varian shouts insults and calls the Horde "savages," "animals," and "pigs."
You just cant get over the fact Thrall acted a little wrong, can you? xD
Blizzard watchs over the comics all the time, they likley approved of that. What would Trion think? What would Sergent think?...what would Tabetha think?
All these people do so much for him, and he acts like that? To Jaina's face? Whats up with that?Well, Rankkor made a point. It's possible that he wasn't insulting humans as a race, but Varian as a person. He did say he "expected more from a human" after all. Also, it's Taretha. Tabetha is some oracle in Dustwallow. Please get it right. (OCD)
And about your racial slurs, they are the plain truth, everyone with orcish blood Varian has ever seen proved they cant be trust. They all act like savages; just looking as if they hate his very presence.
There is nothing good TOO say about orcs!Really? Like how they helped save the world? How about the fact that an orc saved Anduin Wrynn's life? And then, of course, Tirion, Alexstrasza, the Naaru, and many others who are wiser than Varian trust the orcs.
"Varian Wrynn bravley lead the Alliance forces to fight and defeat the scourge at Icecrown, and what did Thrall do? He sat his butt down on his throne hoping the plagues and Garrosh would go away, with out doing anything! Varian ownz!What are you talking about? The only time Varian's even shown up in Northrend (thus far in the continuity, the comics might change this) was at the Tournament, where he did nothing but complain about not wanting to be there.
Peace IS useless, every time he trys, Varian almost loses his head, and someone with in the Alliance suffers for it! He wants is to defeat the scourge at Northrend, and made habitable is all, your twisting his words around... typical Varian hater...Really? He's tried twice. Once he didn't even actually start negotiating, thanks to the actions of
his people
.
Thrall? A million times more worthy then anyone in the Warcraft universe? I know you and taruenmoo had fun telling each other back in forth how Thrall is #1 and the face of WoW, but its not true.
Plenty of people would disagree with you. Thrall is a good man, but not perfect.The only mortal person who can be called a better or wiser person than Thrall is Velen. And he's like 40k years old.
Blaming a whole race for no reason at all? When the evidence is plainly obvious that Garona was sent by the Horde? When the Champion of the Horde thinks that the orcs did the right thing in the second and first wars? When Thrall's idol, the genocidal maniac named Orgrim Doomhammer wants to destroy all races that are not part of the Horde, and is honored past and preasent by the Horde? ( I know he had no choice, but that never makes carving in the skulls of babys ok. This falls under Lawful Evil... at best)Alright, I'll take each of your points one at a time, lgihtning round style:
1. There's no evidence Garona was sent by the Horde. It was an on the spot assumption.
2. What Rexxar said was right. He was saying to Grom that they didn't need to take Azeroth anymore.
3. Orgrim was also right. He had to choose between letting his people starve to death and kill eachother or taking Azeroth for the Horde. If he chose the former, he would have been kicked out of the Warchief position, and the Horde would likely continue the war anyway, so he chose the latter. And when did Orgrim carve up a baby's skull?
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Guys, I was not insulting, or saying Im 100% right, or you are 100% wrong, im just saying what I thought. I am trying to look at your POV, but what Rankkorr said was pure rage, no facts.
Nah, you just provoke people into insulting you, and then try to claim youself as the innocent one.
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Post by
Adamsm
delterius it is a good try but this is the
internet
and children will be children
Joang, stop. Your just as bad as those your making fun of. I really don't want my thread locked so just stop.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
delterius it is a good try but this is the
internet
and children will be children
Joang, stop. Your just as bad as those your making fun of. I really don't want my thread locked so just stop.
The problem is Adamsm, this thread you created is about a character in the lore who, as it stands, wants to kill off all members of the horde, starting with the orcs, go to war with them, and even insult what the new horde has faught for. In this thread your have those against Varian and what he follows, as well as fans of the character who will, as Darkton has been doing, try to demonize everything else to make his fav character look better for it.
You can't dismiss it when the subject at hand IS about Varian, people disliking him or liking him.
Post by
Adamsm
delterius it is a good try but this is the
internet
and children will be children
Joang, stop. Your just as bad as those your making fun of. I really don't want my thread locked so just stop.
apparently you didnt get what i meant if they are going to argue they are going to do it regardless no matter what we say
Yeah, but your having fun keeping the arguements going, so stop.
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Dralas
Do I need to come and help moderate this thread?
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Post by
Rankkor
When the evidence is plainly obvious that Garona was sent by the Horde?
darkton, dear, to this day, you haven't said WHY does it look that the horde sent garona.
the horde did not sent her.
when i ask you what are the evidence that they did, you change the subject and rant about something else.
u know, braincontrolled or not, I can't blame varian for hating garona, she killed his father, almost killed him and also treathened to kill his son, so i can't really blame him for hating
HER
however, hating garona is one thing, and using her as an excuse to hate all of the orcs is a diferent one.
just becuse garona did something evil, doesn't mean the orc farmer and his orclings children playing on the farm in the barrens are just as evil.
for the 200000000 time,
give
me
a
straigth
answer!
why-o-why does it look like the horde sent garona? because she was an orc? just because of that?
need I remind you that humans hit the orcish land, and thrall did't said "they were sent by the alliance" he investigated, because race enough is not evidence of a faction's involvement.
varian knows the cult of the dammed has orcs
varian knows the twilight hammer has orcs
varian knows the wyrmcult has orcs
varian knows the shadow council has orcs
any of these evil and dark factions could had been behind the atack (and indeed, the twillight hammer was behind it)
varian knows but refuses to listen to his tiny-tiny brain because he wants to blame the horde.
so for teh last time, WHAT EVIDENCE poitns that the horde sent garona?
Straight answers are apreciated pls.
what Rankkorr said was pure rage, no facts
o_O o really? someone else, pls if what I said on my previous post (page 17, last post there) was wrong, please trown the first stone.
come on, if any facts on my previous post are not backed up by lore point them out.
(@darkton, don't be surprised if nobody does buddy, I only speak facts, not fabricated lore pulled out of my rear like this cute jewel you trew in another post somewhere "varian has suffered more than alextazsa")
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Post by
Rankkor
in my defense I can say that after what happened in the garrosh vs thrall thread, I have never ever laid a sigle ofesive word against anoter player.
unlike 2 of the users whose-names-shall-not-be-mentioned who just can't stay away from the insults and personal atacks, over and over in every thread posible.
Post by
Dralas
I'll be checking in on this thread to make sure no flaming is happening after this post. If it is, I'll give a few warning, but I don't want to have to call in a mod for a lock.
There is a difference between debating and fighting like children, and the last thing we need is tensions between the users of wowhead and end up creating some grudges.
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Post by
Adamsm
It's actually been quiet in this thread today. And I'm glad of that heh, I'd really rather not get this one locked.
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