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Post by
taurenmoo812
In all my posts about cataclysm I've made it clear my opinion on this, Thrall IS the warchief, but more then that, he's the man who brought the orcs from the brink of nothing, he made them strong again, and even stronger with him joining allies to the horde, helped it regain its shamanism, and then not turn itself into a blood crazed army of death..
And THAT is what this is all about. People keep saying Thralls soft in terms of the leading the horde because, in the pvp aspect of the game, Thrall does not want to waige a pointless war against the alliance unlike some warmongering leader would.
This end up conflicting with the hordes want for fighting, and more then anything, wow gamers want for pvping. But the noble and strong leader of the horde uses wisdom instead of being a thug, and prevents his people fighting the alliance in all out war.
The fact is, Thrall is not weak, he's done more for the orcs and the rest of the horde then any other leader before him. Even Doomhammer, who was leader of all the orcs after he killed Blackhand, was only leader in the sense it lead his people to ravage the landscape for a short time, and eventually, it lead to the old hordes end.
Thrall is what embodies the horde, this horde right now, and if the horde lost its true leader, then it wouldn't be the horde anymore.
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Post by
Supremacy
Also, he'd kill Jaina Proudmoore, the one Human trying to make Bonds with the alliance and horde. Then the Alliance would be provoked, this is where the horde would be destroyied because Varian (losing another one of his comrades and loyal Friends) would send all his forces after Orgrimmar, (Mainly Garrosh) and *BOOM* everyone would be dead. Tauren possibly be recruited into the alliance by Tyrande due to the Tauren have no-one else to turn too.
I get the point you're trying to make. Just one thing, though.
Garrosh?
You think Garrosh can take Jaina Proudmoore?
Jaina froze Varian, Thrall, their respective guards, Horde and Alliance champions, and everyone else in that room by waving her hand. She then teleported an army away with a thought.
I don't...I'm sorry, I just don't see Garrosh walking away from that battle triumphant.
Or at all.
Post by
ShiinaMae
Thrall for Pres. of the world!
I am an Ally and i Approve this message
This.
The Hordies approve of you too Dr. :)
Also, he'd kill Jaina Proudmoore, the one Human trying to make Bonds with the alliance and horde. Then the Alliance would be provoked, this is where the horde would be destroyied because Varian (losing another one of his comrades and loyal Friends) would send all his forces after Orgrimmar, (Mainly Garrosh) and *BOOM* everyone would be dead. Tauren possibly be recruited into the alliance by Tyrande due to the Tauren have no-one else to turn too.
I get the point you're trying to make. Just one thing, though.
Garrosh?
You think Garrosh can take Jaina Proudmoore?
Jaina froze Varian, Thrall, their respective guards, Horde and Alliance champions, and everyone else in that room by waving her hand. She then teleported an army away with a thought.
I don't...I'm sorry, I just don't see Garrosh walking away from that battle triumphant.
Or at all.
And this.
Both points taken into consideration, Garrosh might be able to take Jaina if he played it smart (Tauren rogues. *nod* But since it's been covered that he'd probably lose the Tauren, he's doomed).
But since he's not about tactics... He actually strikes me as the hammer and every problem he encounters being a nail. So yea... Going by that, Garrosh leading Horde = no more Horde. :(
And that's just not cool.
Long live Thrall :)
Post by
taurenmoo812
And this.
Both points taken into consideration, Garrosh might be able to take Jaina if he played it smart (Tauren rogues. *nod* But since it's been covered that he'd probably lose the Tauren, he's doomed).
But since he's not about tactics... He actually strikes me as the hammer and every problem he encounters being a nail. So yea... Going by that, Garrosh leading Horde = no more Horde. :(
And that's just not cool.
Long live Thrall :)
This ^
Also, people keep making an assumption that if Thrall was to leave his title of warchief, and Garrosh was killed, that someone could just as easily take his place. Saurfang as warchief? He might be a commander who he has never even expressed any intrest in it. Naz'grel? The man is loyal to Thrall, and would more then likely follow him where he goes. And Rexxar is still with his people in outland.
Plus, its being assumed that several million players around the world would just suddenly accept Garrosh's take on his 'new new horde' without any objection. Obviously there will be players who do, not being able to form an opinion of something, but the vast majority of horde around the world love the horde for what it is now, end of.
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Post by
Rankkor
Vote?
Vote
? This is the Horde, not some pansy human realm. If Garrosh takes Thrall in a duel,
AND WIN
Garrosh is the new Warchief.
fixed it for ya, and just for the record, there is no way in hell garrosh would win.
before u get all "but on the game garrosh got the upper hand" crap, read the comics, skeeran already pointed out 3 comic pannels that show that duel.
on them garrosh and thrall were fighting using only weapons, no powers, then saurfangs yells that the scourge sent an army and a necropolis to hit ogrimar.
and just like that, in no time flat, thrall swipes garrosh aside like a leaf with his shamanism.
and not only that, he goes out of ogrimar,and single-handedly 1-shots a necropolis.
there is no way in hell garrosh would win whatsoever.
these links are courtesy of Skeeran =)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/cyberman8/WOW19p08.jpg
look at that, on the last panel, thrall mega pwns garrosh wiht a single strike.
and then there's this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/cyberman8/WoW_30_Oroboros_DCP_007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/cyberman8/WoW_30_Oroboros_DCP_011.jpg
he single-handedly 1-shots a necropolis.
:P
orcs are not ruled by democracy, they don't elect their people. the strongest orc is the warchief.
when somoene else want's to be a warchief they have 2 choises.
option A: gain the favor of the current warchief, so that when that chief dies (in battle or from old age) he names you the new warchief.
option B: challenge that warchief to duel and if you win, then u got the title.
no orc dares to challenge thrall, at least no green orc.
garrosh hans't been arround to see all the good thrall has done for his people, so he dismisses thrall as a weak leader who should step aside.
of course he thinks that because he's stupid with a capital S.
my vote is for thrall 4 life.
Post by
Rankkor
Long live The Alliance
Sincerly DeathxKnight remember that name bc i will return and god help the horde army.
The Death Knights will never fall
:P this is so sad I can't quite find the words to describe it.
(BTW good luck with the whole horde army slaugher with the never-ending rain of nerfs, it seems there isn't a patch that does't gimp at least 1 talent or skill of the DK xD, wise choise dude)
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Post by
xaratherus
Garrosh with his new Fascist reign will Declare full blown war on the alliance Cairne will protest along with other faction leaders so Garrosh assassinates Cairne in secracy and frames it on the alliance bringing rage to the other factions and a cry for revenge.
Garrosh will publicly execute the said allaince assassin (hopefully a gnome) in Orgrimmar making him a hero of the Horde.
And outside the game, anyone with an ounce of sense realizes what an utterly horrible leader Garrosh is. Anyone with half a brain and a copy of "Battle Tactics for Dummies" knows that you don't start (or re-start) a war against an equal foe when you've already got a major enemy in common. A battle on two fronts against foes of equivalent strength? Good luck with that...
Don't get me wrong, I understand why Blizzard would make this change, but from a tactical perspective it underlines the fact that Garrosh is an immense idiot.
Post by
Rankkor
Garrosh will probebly accuse Thrall of not being able to handle the situation and challenge him to a duel and will
WIN
dind't u saw the links I posted up there? garrosh dindt' "almost beated thrall" thrall was holding back his shamanistic powers, and after the scourge arrived he pushed garrosh aside like a leaf.
there is no way in hell garrosh can defeat a guy that can single-handedly and effortlessly 1-shot necropolises from the sky.
no-way-ever.
juts look at the pics is not that long for them to load up
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Post by
Arkham
Thrall is what embodies the horde, this horde right now, and if the horde lost its true leader, then it wouldn't be the horde anymore.The whole reason "The Horde" started is because of the Old Horde. Before that, there wasn't an Orcish Horde, they were just orcs. The Horde was created, originally, to be a unified, conquering war machine, not a conglomerate of disparate and so-called "outcast" races.
If what you described happened, it's not true that "it wouldn't be the Horde anymore." On the contrary, the Horde would truly be The Horde it was always meant to be once again. :)
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Post by
trademen
if thrall realy leaves, saurfang gets my vote
/agree
Post by
dhampir1989
Also Thrall is a NPC the horde especially kinda feels a bit proud of so when his position is threatened naturally someone would be a bit upset about it....
This is true. Thrall's the only leader I've ever seen staunchly defended in any of the city raids that I've done.
In a way, if MMO-Champion's sources were correct on the rest of what was reported - and I'm pretty sure that the 90% they were correct on is pretty good reason to think they are - Thrall's getting a promotion of sorts. The Guardians of Tirisfal are (or were - probably will be again) one of the more powerful organizations on Azeroth.
Thrall...
A guardian?
*ponders implications*
Post by
dhampir1989
Vote?
Vote
? This is the Horde, not some pansy human realm. If Garrosh takes Thrall in a duel, Garrosh is the new Warchief.
He's right. Trash shouldn't copy royalty, it's just pathetic. They should just stick to their barbaric crap.
Barbarism changes depending on the way you look at it.
The Ostro and Visigoths found Rome barbaric.
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