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I will not follow Garrosh Hellscream
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Adamsm
It's the Fact that Garrosh is more or less a lover of the Old Horde, the Demon Horde, the one that destroyed so much of Azeroth during their first invasion. If he ends up being Warchief, it's going to happen again, and Sargeras could literally appear in front of him, poke him in the head and say "Hi!" and Garrosh would still be "KILL ALL PINK SKINS!". The guy is a horrible choice for a leader.
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Dralas
The reason joang is that lore-wise, the Horde DO NOT, want to go to war with the Allinace, especially under Garrosh. One of two things will happen if Garrosh takes over:
A) They get all the Horde decimated and destroyed because of the eventual civil war within that would for sure erupt, and Alliance taking advantage and wiping them out.
Or
B) They old Horde rise once more, corrupted by Garrosh's ways and demons once again coming around and ruining them again, destroying all of Azeroth.
Either way, lose lose.
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Dralas
before i played the warcraft games or read any of the books i seriously belived the alliance and horde were always at war until recently i could care less they make it seem like they are at war the whole time i mean in outland in hellfire honor hold and thrallmar are
at war
with each other in the borean tundra the horde is picking up alliance prisoners theres several dailys to kill alliance/horde and then in grizzly hills yet more war (taking battlegrounds out of the picture) it looks to me like we are at war XD
Yes, they are attacking each other, but what I meant is they don't want to go in an all out full war.
Each side is angry at each other, so you can't expect them to play nice.
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Skreeran
We're not at the nuke stage yet. In Hellfire there was a daily to claim some ruins for the Horde, even if the Alliance were already there. That's hardly war. We were barely fighting before WotLK. Just look at the Ahn'Qiraj event. The Alliance and Horde were literally working side by side.
You wanna see what a real Horde vs. Alliance war would look like, check out my War is Hell series.
War IS a bad thing. Period. I don't want Garrosh to ruin everything we've worked for. Even his father had more respect for the humans than he apparently does.
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Dralas
o so if usa and russia started shooting nukes at each other it be fine to say hey we dislike eachother why play nice?
Where the hell did you get that Russia and US hate each other?
Also: Look at it like this as an example.
The U.S. are fighting off.. lets say some aliens for the sake of it. The taliban are also fighting them off as well, not showing the usual hostility but both sides hate each other, and won't hesitate to kill each other if the other gets in the way.
Each side has a common goal, but that doesn't mean they will cooperate with each other.
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Adamsm
We're not at the nuke stage yet. In Hellfire there was a daily to claim some ruins for the Horde, even if the Alliance were already there. Alliance has the same quest. And if your talking about the "Alliance Kills Orcs" there killing the Fel Orcs, same as the Thrallmar forces.
Garrosh is leader of the Mag'har. Everyone seems to have forgotten that. Yeah? And he spent most of his time as leader crying and moaning till Thrall came and woke him up.... then he turned into a pre-Lord of the Clan's Hellscream clone. Garrosh almost destroyed the Mag'har due to his inactivity, and if he ends up being the new leader, he'll destroy them and the current orc's due to his stupidity and hard headness.
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Adamsm
@ skeeran did you not forget the giant row of siege weapons pointed torwards thrallmar and honor hold the horde and alliance were sieging each other i belive thats called war
No, those weapons were aimed at the Fel Orc's within Hellfire Citadel.
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Skreeran
We're not at the nuke stage yet. In Hellfire there was a daily to claim some ruins for the Horde, even if the Alliance were already there. Alliance has the same quest. And if your talking about the "Alliance Kills Orcs" there killing the Fel Orcs, same as the Thrallmar forces.I know the Alliance has the same quest. I'm saying that it's not a war out there, it's a small quarrel over strategically beneficial ruins. They aren't killing the Alliance there (if there's anyone there) as part of a war.
Personally, I don't call fighting a fairly isolated conflict over some ruins a war. If Thrallmar and Honor Hold were attacking eachother directly, that'd be more warlike. But that's not happening either.
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Adamsm
@ adamsm go spend some time run back there look were the weapons are pointing the horde ones point directly at honor hold and the alliance ones point directly at thrallmar
none
of them are pointing torwards the citadel lol learn to look at youre surroundings
And if you notice, around both of those weapon, it's crawling with Fel Orc's, not Alliance soldiers and not Horde soldiers. I don't know about Horde side but on Alliance your given a quest to destroy them so that the Fel Orc's cant use them against Honour Hold.
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Skreeran
You don't seem to remember why Garrosh was in a deep, brooding depression before Thrall came...Of course we do...
I don't know why he changed so much either. He was depressed because Grom was the first to drink the blood and doom his people. Then Thrall encouraged him, showing how Grom defeated Mannoroth. Now he's openly challenging Thrall and hating the Alliance for no reason. Care to explain that?
However good a leader he was in Nagrand (Hint: He wasn't very good), he'd be an even worse one now.
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