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Feydakin
I am torn between loving it for my alts because I know how hard it is to find PUGs for things that aren't a total failure, and being irritated that any scrub can now faceroll through heroics and get gear that I worked my butt off for raiding... I don't care how elitist you think it sounds, but you can't deny that having something that you worked hard for cheapened in that way is wrong.
And yes, they should have reduced the emblem costs of the T7.X items to be in line with the T8.X items... it makes no logical sense not to, but then since when does anything Blizzard does make logical sense?
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wigg1es
That is what achievements are. Proof of ability. Gear used to be that proof, but it isn't any more... achievements are. To ALL WoW players... good luck and have fun and I will gladly heal any nub, casual, hardcore, softcore or any other kind of player's pug :)Sort of... You can still get roflstomped in the first 4 seconds of a fight, but if your raid clears, you get the achievement. That doesn't really prove anything.
The larger issue is that there is no perfect system for sorting out the good players from the bad.
The way I see it, your best option is to put a group together, maybe take a couple risks and bring some new players, and if they aren't pulling weight or paying attention, kick them and replace them. Its inconvenient, but its not that difficult, especially if you're a dedicated raid leader and you actively add good raiders to your friends list.
(sorry for kind of going off-topic)
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TheMediator
When I hear people say "I worked for X", I just laugh.
Sorry, but I have a hard time taking people seriously who say that raiding is work. '
If you don't have fun raiding, don't raid, simple as that.
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faeofwind
No I wont ive worked to get where I am and now every !@#$en person is going to be on same lvl its not right. Carnage I understand u will go and farm heroics but I dont see it right since we put time and effort into raids.
quit WoW.
and while you're at it, delete your wowhead account too.
(how much hard work could u have really put in, if you have a problem with having to grind heroics to obtain better gear? if you're so concerned, just hit the heroics asap in the hopes u will get your conquest emblems faster than all the other players who apparently never put in any effort... idiot.)
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OxygenE
If you hate wasting time, why bother gearing up at all? Just cancel your subscription until the next expansion comes out. You know the level 80 gear will be obsolete by then.
Honestly, the only reason people are angry is jealousy. You get exactly what you asked for in that you raided and put hard work into getting your gear. You are not losing your items.
For the kingdom of heaven of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. And after agreeing with the workers for the standard wage, he sent them into his vineyard. When it was about nine o’clock in the morning, he went out again and saw others standing around in the market place without work. And he said to them, “You go into the vineyard too and I will give you whatever is right.” So they went. When he went out again about noon and three o’clock that afternoon, he did the same thing. And about five o’clock that afternoon he went out and found others standing around, and he said to them, “Why are you standing here all day without work?” They said to him, “Because no one has hired us.” He said to them, “You go and work in the vineyard too.”
When it was evening, the owner of the vineyard said to his manager, “Call the workers and give the pay starting with the last hired until the first.” When those hired about five o’clock came, each received a full day’s pay. And when those hired first came, they though they would receive more. But each one also received the standard wage. When they received it, they began to complain against the landowner, saying, “These last fellows worked one hour, and you have made them equal to us who bore the hardship and burning heat of the day.
And the landowner replied to one of them, “Friend, I am not treating you unfairly. Didn’t you agree with me to work for the standard wage? Take what is yours and go. I want to give this last man the same as I gave to you. Am I not permitted to do what I want with what belongs to me? Or are you envious because I am generous? So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
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faeofwind
its not about grinding heroics its about fresh 80s going and getting equivalent gear that I put time and effort towards
and now they have to put time and effort into their gear too. what is your problem? did u delete your account yet? we're all waiting for you to do so.
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ZoraLink
Am I the only one wanting to reach through the computer and strangle him?
You can't fill every single spot of your gear with emblems of conquest gear. You do realize people are going to have a few pieces of 226 gear... after a couple weeks of grinding, and even then, the rest will still be 187 or 200. So please. SHUT UP. I've never wanted to strangle anyone through a computer more than your constant whining. The game isn't based on your "pride" in gear, it's based on enjoyment, and if you have a problem with Blizzard helping other people get geared to run ALL the content to ENJOY all of it, kindly GTFO.
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Sagerauru
To try and turn this on a positive note, I am on the "Really Enjoy this Update" side of the debate. :P I just got my second 80 a few days ago and this will make gearing her much easier. Before someone tries and flames me for saying this, my other 80 is fairly well geared (Naxx 25 and Ulduar 10/25 pieces), so it isn't like I haven't done my raiding.
In my view, this update is going to help a bunch of people. There are guilds out there who are not very big and because of that may struggle trying to get into some of the higher-end raids for multiple reasons. Also, this will give those who do not have as much time as others to play World of Warcraft a chance to catch up on the stuff they don't have the hours to invest in raids while still being a good choice for their guild in raids. Alternative characters and dual talent specializations will greatly benefit from this as well since some people may not have any luck with getting into raids on an alternative character or get gear for their secondary talent. Much more good than bad from what I can see!
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Typo; I had typed "More good than bad" but it was changed the other way around when I read the post. Odd!
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