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I don't agree that this is the kind of thing that should be legislated.
Do I have the mental faculties to understand what I'm getting into by buying a soft drink? I do.
Can the decision of whether to buy a very large soft drink or not be left in my own hands to decide? It can.
If there's a problem then it should be dealt with by educating people to the potential problems. If legislation is required it should be at most to ensure that correct nutritional information is given and that different size options are provided -
though even that is really unnecessary in my mind since if I was upset that drink retailer A didn't offer anything smaller than a 2litre Coke I can always go to retailer B who sells 500ml
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I don't agree that this is the kind of thing that should be legislated.
Do I have the mental faculties to understand what I'm getting into by buying a soft drink? I do.
Can the decision of whether to buy a very large soft drink or not be left in my own hands to decide? It can.
Well, I can use same logic to say that smoking and speeding legislation is bad, but your obesety might cause troubles for others and that should be legislated.
Speeding and smoking cause DEATH for others. We don't just legislate anything that causes someone else annoyance or inconvenience.
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I personally don't drink non-diet soda, so it wouldn't affect me. But I generally feel that there is a lot of unnecessary babysitting going on by the government, and so am wary about laws like this. I agree that it does put a strain on public health care, though, so I can see the point.
I think the main issue is that this law will end up having no effect. People can just order 2 drinks, or get refills, or get a bottle instead of a cup. It's kind of a silly law, because it doesn't affect how much someone can buy, just how big the cups are, so it can't actually prevent what it tries to prevent. I think a better, healthier and less individually restrictive approach would be to limit the amount of sugar per oz. that you can put in drinks. There are other sweeteners out there, and there are a lot of less sweet drinks that are good. There's also the option of using fruit sugars instead of processed sugar, for less of an impact on blood sugar.
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I don't agree that this is the kind of thing that should be legislated.
Do I have the mental faculties to understand what I'm getting into by buying a soft drink? I do.
Can the decision of whether to buy a very large soft drink or not be left in my own hands to decide? It can.
Well, I can use same logic to say that smoking and speeding legislation is bad, but your obesety might cause troubles for others and that should be legislated.
I don't think there's much merit in comparison with things like speeding but in all honesty I don't agree with most current smoking legislation either. As a once-but-now-
non
-smoker I'm fine with deciding myself whether to spend time with smokers or not.
That said, my political views on this aren't entirely fully formed because, while my views on this are broadly libertarian I do get the argument that people working in pubs (bars) oughtn't be forced to spend long hours in smokey environments in order to get a wage. I don't have (or know from other sources) a strong rebuttal to that but I don't really think prohibition is an elegant solution to basically anything - especially soft drink sales.
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It's also hard to imagine a less effectual one.
So, like, politically I'm not in favour of this but if it there were studies and some real scientific basis for the idea that it will positively affect obesity levels (in a statistically significant way) then I could suspend my politics in favour of a positive change.
Perhaps that science exists and I simply haven't come across it but in the absence of that I see this as legislation to start a conversation rather than to help people. (By which I mean that the purpose isn't to make people drink less soft drinks and thereby reduce obesity but rather to make headlines linking overconsumption of soft drinks and obesity in order to inject it into the public conciousness - a fair goal but I take issue with the means).
(also, "prohibition" may be too strong a word, very true. It was more the smoking stuff that led me there than the NYC thing)(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##
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Some people argue that pot should be legal, because people should be free to do as they want, and then say that large soda should be illegal because it is harmful to society. Other people argue that pot should be illegal because it is harmful to society, and then say that large sodas should be legal because people should be free to do as they want.
I say that neither soda nor soda pop is a threat to society. It isn't for government to baby sit me, and tell me what I can and cannot consume. I also don't believe that society should have to pay my medical bills, either, especially if I inflict injuries on myself by consuming something unhealthy.
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