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Hyperspacerebel
Honestly when will people get it...If you're loosing 80% of your BGs, it's not the faction that sucks, it's you. I've played in 4 battle groups (2 as alliance, 2 as horde) and I win 80% of my BGs in all of them. Learn to fix your own problems before spending the whole BG complaining about people not listening.
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Hyperspacerebel
Honestly when will people get it...If you're loosing 80% of your BGs, it's not the faction that sucks, it's you.
Yes, it must be me, since i'm always the person with most killing blows, Flag captures and returns when we win.
EDIT: Welcome to Cruelty/Crueldad:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7818/wowscrnshot071909215740.jpg
My point exactly, it's the people who spend the whole BG trying to get onto the top of the killing blows chart. The more you work with people (instead of without them or "above" them) chances are you killing blows will go down, but more will get done.
I rarely get top killing blows, but I'm always in the top 3 for heals on my enhancement shaman and ret pally. Why? Because I'm there to help the raid, not to get on top of a chart that disappears after 2 minutes.
and hurray for your 0 killing blows...
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cloudp
while skill and comunication matter, don't kid yourselves, there ARE battlegroups that are indeed nearly unplayable.
If you begin the team like the perfect example we got above, even if he's extremely skilled, will he defeat 8 players?
And even if the bg fills out, will the new 10-10 be able to overcome the initial disadvantage? entering a 2-0 bg with you losing and 5players versus 10 is just... plain stupid. Skill cannot overcome this.
For the so-called players claiming an 80% win on all battlegrounds they enter, imagine how the other faction feels.
The easiest BG to check it is AV. I've attended 40-20 matches more than once. And you expect to win this way? You can, but with triple the effort my faction needs to put.
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Hyperspacerebel
And here's my reply to "you no teamwork" and also, most common WSG on my Battlegroup
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5282/wowscrnshot071909223128.jpg
You doubled the healing of the warrior behind you...gg...
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cloudp
I phrased it poorly, by the looks of it, but what i meant is: Skill is a factor, but not the
only
factor. Particularly if you are in a battleground, where even on perfectly equal stats, there is always a little bit of chance, luck, and being out of it means you lose.
And this suposition does NOT happen, face it. The team that combines the best starting "stats" - number of players, skill of each player, etc. - has a better chance to win. Not 100%, of course, but still, they have an advantage. If you claim any of the factors as the only one, the argument is faulty.
Also, forget the damned meters. They mean nothing. I am a Priest, my extreme defensive skills make me an excelent carrier but also an excelent supporter. If i am against a team of retarded people who ignore the flag, and am helping my warrior to get unharmed to my base, i may end with 0 KB, some 10k heal and a couple hundred of damage, no returns or caps on the flag. So what? i did my job. statistics apart, i was in a place where, should anything happen, i could have reacted.
Just a little last comment i must say.
"I can't be assed to argue with someone who has already decided he/she is right, so no need to reply on the last post, wont even read it."
Hum... if i thought i was wrong, why to post at all? just to increase my count on posts? Of course i think i am right. All i read there is "no matter how reasoned (or not) his arguments are, ignore them."
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cloudp
Well, the responses seem indeed confuse. If what you said directed to someone who actually said nothing of use, what you said applies (like: i can defeat anyone in bgs, because i'm just
that
good.). If you said it to someone who has argumented decently, what I said still applies.
Whichever, lets just get past it, it does nothing to help the original poster.
First, if you are looking for true numbers, the best way to look is
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/bg_list.php
. I know WoW has an official forum for it, but it is sadly outdated.
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