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Post by
dutch84
Is a Troll better for elemental, and orc better for enhancement? How much of a difference is it? I really don't like orcs look (just my thing) but if it's an ABSOLUTE must then I could suck it up and play one. I'm leaning toward elemental shamy and I'd like to roll a Troll.
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froeksel
Go for the looks not the racials if you go for the racials you are (censored.)
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Post by
jafar
Now that berserking will be changed to a
fixed 20% attack/casting speed buff regardless of health
let's see how that would compare with the orc racial
Acording to the
Stat weighting preset topic
haste rating weight is 56 while SP is 60.
We need
32.79
raste rating for a 1% increase in attack/casting speed. 32.79*20 = 655.8 haste rating provided by the troll racial wich lasts 10 seconds and it's on a 3 minutes (180s) cd so thats 5.55...% uptime. 655.8*0.0555... = 36.4333
If you keep the troll racial on cd all the time it will provide a 36.4333 haste rating increase.
Now for the Orc Racial. I'll take into account just the spell power part of the skill. At level 80 it provides 163 sp, it lasts 15 seconds and it's on a 2 minutes (120s) cd. That's a 12.5% uptime f you use it whenever it is up. 163*0.125 = 20.375
Ok so we now know that the troll racial is equivalent to 36.4333 constant haste rating and the orc one to 20.375 constant spell power (assuming it is always used on cd). Taking into account the stats weight we have
Troll
36.4333*56 = 2040.2648
Orcs
20.375*60 = 1 222.5
So for an Elemental Shaman I'd say (assuming my math is correct and I didn't screw up anything with the ratings or formulae) Troll is a better choice.
Heck, You could just have ignored all that stuff and picked Troll anyway as most of the racials aren't game breaking and it's a much better choice to go with a toon You like than one You hate because You can deal 10 or so additional dps
edit
there are a few times when orc would have a
slight
advantage due to his shorter cd racial. If the fight lasts 4:15 then You were only able to use the troll racial one time while You were able to use the Orc one twice. But Trolls catches up and gets the lead again when the fight reaches 6 minutes (and some seconds someone can crunch the numbers if they want to) and They can pop their 2nd CD. And even though The Orc is popping his 3rd it isn't enough to surpass the Troll.
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Post by
Revived
Let's go for looks and no for racial 'coz you will need imba gear anyway at level 80 ;-)
Post by
jafar
I'm a Orc Enhancement myself so I'm not fully aware how haste affects elemental rotation. For a Enhancement I'd say orc is a better choice, axe/fist spec and ap and sp from blood fury (i didn't know about commmand affecting Wolves and Elementals). I like Orc for the exact same reason stated, Its racial is just an increase in power and it doesn't messes up your timers (WF internal cd mainly).
One thing i didn't take into account was the GCD and how the racial affects it (and the point where you'd be GCD capped, meaning you would be casting your spells faster then the GCD).
My point was that even if Orc was/is better it's just by a marginal ammount, Go with whatever You like
Post by
lucius
Orcs: Huge shoulders, rippling abs on both genders.
Trolls: Tusks. No shoes, ever!
Trolls:
Best named racial
Orcs have much better dance animations, but trolls have better sitting animations.
i'd definately say go Orc if you planned on enhancement, but for elemental you can probably go with either set of racials. Troll's haste probably favors restoration more than elemental.
You sound like you want a troll, go for it.
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