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Changes to agi and dodge rating in 3.2
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Post by
GhostFlight
Damn sorry to see this
Post by
Heckler
I've always considered it a little... imbalanced that Agility was SO much better than Dodge Rating. I'm glad that this might make dodge rating a little more desirable.
Post by
Aadramelekh
our BiS gear would have around 95% avoidanceExcuse me?...
Please provide a screenshot with a viable Bear tank having 95% avoidance post diminishing returns with current gear (no matter if it was dodge rating or agility).
You know, in order to reach 50% dodge
before DR
, a Bear would have to stack 2080 agility (read
HERE
for some math). And all that would provide no more than 50.19% dodge
after DR
. Please show me a viable tanking gear (meaning that it should also provide about 37-38K HP unbuffed in Bear Form) that could provide such a high dodge chance in current content and I'll personally go and kiss a pig infected with swine flu.
Anyway it plain SUCKS they are reducing the efficiency of agility and dodge rating.
Heckler
, how was agility imbalanced compared to dodge rating? O_o
1% dodge = 41.66 agility
1% dodge = 39.34 dodge rating
With this formula they become
1% dodge = 47.9 agility
1% dodge = 45.241
So again, how?
Dodge rating has always provided a little more dodge than agility. The advantage of agility is that, being an
attribute
, it is influenced by talents / spells that give percentage increases to attributes (Survival of the Fittest, Improved Mark of the Wild and Blessing of Kings). This was the only reason it was better by a little margin to stack agility and still is. But imbalanced? I don't see the reason.
Post by
Heckler
lol, I read it wrong, i thought they were INCREASING the effect of Dodge Rating. Oh well. By imbalanced, I meant that druids NEVER pick dodge rating (over AGI that is, in ANY circumstance). Agility is just.. Better. Looks like it will stay this way xD
Post by
Aadramelekh
lol, I read it wrong, i thought they were INCREASING the effect of Dodge Rating. Oh well. By imbalanced, I meant that druids NEVER pick dodge rating. Agility is just.. Better. Looks like it will stay this way xD
Yeah well out of
FOUR
tanking classes, one is a little bit different. OURS. I am
glad
things are that way. Don't forget also that our avoidance is still lower than all other tanking classes', even with the slightly higher efficiency of agility. And anyway, besides rings, amulets, cloaks and trinkets, there are still no other pieces of gear that could provide Bears with dodge rating. And those that give agility usually give lower amounts of stamina, as they are not 'intended' for tanking - compare these two rings:
Platinum Band of the Aesir
and
Metallic Loop of the Sufferer
. The first one gives 1.658 (pre-DR) avoidance. The second gives 1.488 avoidance (pre-DR). With talents and BoK, the second will give 1.768 pre-DR avoidance, just 6.6% more (OMG imba!) than the Platinum Band. But I'd still take the Platinum Band. Because 31 more stamina (before talents and BoK) is MUCH more valuable for tanking than some 0.1% dodge O_o
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Heckler
Yeah well out of
FOUR
tanking classes, one is a little bit different. OURS. I am
glad
things are that way.
I can agree with this =) ALSO: The fact that its an attribute isn't the only reason, the 2 armor you get pet agi actually makes a decent difference when you compare the stats without considering Kings or Imp. MotW (on TTL calcs)
Post by
MegaVolt
And don't forget Savage Defenses. Agility also boosts that.
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