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Kyura
I suggest leveling as Enhancement. You can heal lower level instances just fine as Enhancement, nothing wrong with that. And you usually have another class with healing potential in your party so that's not the problem.
Leveling as Elemental, on the other hand, is also a nice way to level a Shaman. Plus you got spellpower and lots of Mana which makes healing lots easier.
In the end it's all your own choice and preference. If you want to level as Resto, it's possible but not recommended.
Post by
ZoraLink
Shamans are incredibly reliant on talents for the damage/healing. If you level as restoration, be prepared to spend roughly 2x the amount of time you would on one of the other specs leveling. Not exaggerating. Possibly more, if anything. The only benefit I could possibly see if you'll never die, but that's about it.
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RaakaReiska
Tried to level as resto shaman (level 74 with some instance gear and quest greens) and it took lot of time to kill just one Shoveltusk mob (around 20-30 seconds). I did use just lighting bolt + shock (don't remember which one).
Then I switched back to Enhancement (samekind of gear) and Shoveltusk killed in about 3s (got lucky with Windfury crits).
Ofc I suck leveling in resto spec (just tested).
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L2
http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2716
this is neither here or there... neither it's helpfull at all...
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Cordimus
People always seem to think that when pairing with another person, you need to have some type of Tank/Healer combo as the optimal setup. Few things deal enough damage to require the dedicated mitigation and healing that such a combo would provide, so you're basically wasting a lot of time. DPS/DPS is always going to be the superior choice. Right now, you level so amazingly fast, that most group quests are completely unnecessary, so if you run into anything you can't handle, you can always just run on over to a new area and you have a whole selection of fun quests. An enhance shaman can keep themselves alive just fine through practically every quest you might need to run from 1 to 80, so if you are just running solo quests with two people, it's just as easy.
Ultimately, it's totally your choice and it's about what you want to do and the pace at which you want to do it. Some people like going slower and want to painstakingly complete everything in an area - silly group quests and outdated dungeons included. I suppose it is a more "authentic" experience. However, if you want to burn through stuff and feel like you are accomplishing a lot with your time, Enhance is the way to go, solo or with a friend. End of story.
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Cordimus
u are absolutly right but is there no value in the expierenced gained with the spells? or the actual duty of having to heal? i find more and more respecs at the endgame that have no idea how to play thier toon...
This is a common sentiment in defense of leveling with a healing spec for any class capable. Respectfully, I have to disagree, with a few specific points.
It's debatable whether healing instances while leveling will actually net you any valuable experience. There's a certain learning curve, I believe, and the best way to scale it comes from repeated and consecutive experiences healing, not healing a single instance every ten levels.
Further, your first times healing could very well be rocky, especially if you've never healed in an MMO, and doubly so if you're having to PUG a group. It is easier to learn to heal properly in a well balanced and structured group, since that way you can more easily tell which mistakes were yours and which belonged to your group mates. Recognizing those mistakes is the best way to fix them and thereby become a better healer. PUG groups during the leveling period are almost invariably mismatched jumbles of incompetent people that are frustrating and difficult to really analyze your faults.
Lastly, running instances while low levels is difficult on most servers and a player is left at the whim of just happening to be on at the right time to get the requisite people together. On most servers though there are plenty of groups running Heroic dungeons practically any time day or night. The quicker you can start running those heroics you can start having those repeated and consecutive healing experiences I mentioned earlier.
If you are starting a new character and you want to be an awesome end-game healer as fast as possible, jet as FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE to 80 and start running heroics. It's the best bang for your buck and while those first couple dungeons at 80 might be rocky, if you've the capability to be a good healer, you'll probably catch on quick.
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ZoraLink
u are absolutly right but is there no value in the expierenced gained with the spells? or the actual duty of having to heal? i find more and more respecs at the endgame that have no idea how to play thier toon...
This is a common sentiment in defense of leveling with a healing spec for any class capable. Respectfully, I have to disagree, with a few specific points.
It's debatable whether healing instances while leveling will actually net you any valuable experience. There's a certain learning curve, I believe, and the best way to scale it comes from repeated and consecutive experiences healing, not healing a single instance every ten levels.
Further, your first times healing could very well be rocky, especially if you've never healed in an MMO, and doubly so if you're having to PUG a group. It is easier to learn to heal properly in a well balanced and structured group, since that way you can more easily tell which mistakes were yours and which belonged to your group mates. Recognizing those mistakes is the best way to fix them and thereby become a better healer. PUG groups during the leveling period are almost invariably mismatched jumbles of incompetent people that are frustrating and difficult to really analyze your faults.
Lastly, running instances while low levels is difficult on most servers and a player is left at the whim of just happening to be on at the right time to get the requisite people together. On most servers though there are plenty of groups running Heroic dungeons practically any time day or night. The quicker you can start running those heroics you can start having those repeated and consecutive healing experiences I mentioned earlier.
If you are starting a new character and you want to be an awesome end-game healer as fast as possible, jet as FAST AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE to 80 and start running heroics. It's the best bang for your buck and while those first couple dungeons at 80 might be rocky, if you've the capability to be a good healer, you'll probably catch on quick.
Agreed with everything here. I leveled shadow from level 1 to level 79 on my priest. Hit 80, and bam, immediate respec to discipline, jumped right into heroics did fine. It should work similarly if you level as elemental to 80. As long as you can pick up on HOW to heal fairly quickly.
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Cordimus
i dont know for me there was something nice about out dps'ing bttr geared toons just cause i knew the class AND spec intimately from playin it for 80 lvls.
Sorry for dragging this out, since I already said what I needed to, but this statement really actually sums up how I look at the situation.
Those folks that you are out DPSing, they obviously have played that DPS class for 80 levels. No one, and I mean NO ONE, would level a resto shaman just to switch to Enhance at lvl 80. So those folks have the very experience that you are saying is so valuable, but obviously it's not doing them very much good if you're out DPSing them in worse gear.
What really matters and plays a huge role in determining the quality of a player is their experience
at 80
playing their role. They also might not be trying very hard.
If you take two players of reasonably close capability and have them level from 1, the first resto all the way and the second enhancement who respecs to resto, by the time the first manages to hit 80, the enhancement shaman will have long since respecced and taken all that extra time to really learn their class, at which point they will have much better gear and much more valuable experience.
Post by
Mainer
To the OP, I've leveled two different shaman to 80, one enhancement all the way and one resto all the way. Enhancement was BY FAR the fastest, as others have noted, but leveling as resto is possible and not that painful if you're consistently running with a friend or friends. The "resto" spec I used was actually a hybrid enhancement/resto spec (imagine that, a hybrid spec for a hybrid) that worked back and forth between early enhancement talents down to Flurry and resto down to Tidal Mastery. Leveling was slower, but killing mobs wasn't too bad with a 1h + shield or big 2-hander. Healing was a breeze.
The pain of leveling as resto can somewhat be mitaged with creative talent selection, and dual-spec with a dps-second spec will make life much easier. Just my 2cp XP.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hZhxg0oxZx0xzh
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Post by
Booterang
Leveling as resto is a bad idea. I went from 1-67 as enhance then from 70-80 as restoration since that was my endgame spec in BC. I do not reccomend it, restoration takes more then
three times
as long to kill things and has far more downtime then enhance does. That was taking into account that I already had most of my core talents and a fair amount of spellpower, I can only imagine the pain of leveling a restoration shaman from level 10 onwards... (it hurts!).
I recieved most of my experience by running dungeon after dungeon. It was a slow means of leveling and I do not recommend it unless the person in question is patient.
It is a much smarter idea to just go from 1-77 as enhance then spec restoration and start gearing up.
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