This site makes extensive use of JavaScript.
Please enable JavaScript in your browser.
Live
PTR
10.2.7
PTR
10.2.6
Beta
My PvP Paladin Profile: Evaluate it
Post Reply
Return to board index
Post by
Quest
http://profiler.wowhead.com/?profile=11850065
Casual BG based PvP (i hate Arena). For someone not looking to PvE. Anything I should be fixing? A gem here? An enchant there? The possibility of a better upgrade through some easy PvE? I'm all eyes.
Post by
MischievousLoki
I'm all eyes.
I got an image in my head of a particular episode of ATHF.
Gross.
I'd have left an actual comment but the profiler is slow so I haven't actually looked yet.
Post by
Lightrain
FL 10 for mace and trinket is about your only upgrade other than 25m emalon/arch and 10m emalon. You might want a PvP trinket.... Just a suggestion...
Also, do arena. You can join a cleave team and probably get some Furious off set gear. At the least, some deadly set gear if you suck that much...
Post by
283705
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Squishalot
Why Ret? Protribution is all the rage at the moment.....
No seriously, just a consideration.
Compare the two, with the same gear, just swapping your Titansteel Destroyer for a Titansteel Bonecrusher with Greater Potency enchant (can probably get better), and a Titansteel Shield Wall with Titanium Plating:
Ret:
Divine Storm: 1950-2350
Crusader Strike: 2260-2700
Judgement: 1150-1250
Melee: 1360-1630
SoB procs: 650-780
Prot:
Shield of Righteousness: 2070
Hammer of the Righteous: 1700
Judgement: 750-810
Avenger's Shield: 3150-3720
Melee: 800-1020
SoB procs: 390-490
At the very least, you'll get more burst, due to being able to use Avenger's Shield at the start of each melee. In terms of sheer damage per second, HotR and ShoR are better than DS and CS, and the Melee/SoB damage can be made up for the burst from Avenger's Shield.
Main reason: 5% more crit as Prot mostly due to Combat Expertise (and associated 6 Expertise), and 10% One Handed Weapon Spec.
Consider your Libram. After Crusader Strike, you do an extra 50 damage with your DS and 30 damage with your melee. Compared to an extra 500 damage with your Shield of Righteousness after every Judgement using Libram of Obstruction.
Plus an extra 2.3k health, Ardent Defender, all the damage mitigation talents....
You're a Prot Paladin at heart... You know that... :)
Post by
Quest
Prot PvP is great if I had a pocket healer. Also most of the gear I listed is pretty much all prot has in terms of PvP - gotten, as far as I can find.
I wont be getter much past 1400 in Arena on 1500 ping.
PS. Jebus christ dieing as prot is going to suck. Its going to take me 5 min just to self buff. Thats it, I'll just have to not die.
Post by
MischievousLoki
Prot PvP is great if I had a pocket healer. Also most of the gear I listed is pretty much all prot has in terms of PvP - gotten, as far as I can find.
I wont be getter much past 1400 in Arena on 1500 ping.
PS. Jebus christ dieing as prot is going to suck. Its going to take me 5 min just to self buff. Thats it, I'll just have to not die.
5 minutes or 10 seconds?
Seal>Bless>RF>Drink for 5.5 seconds (excessive if you're using level 75 water) Or if you're BGing, you don't drink.
Post by
Squishalot
I was thinking Protribution, rather than true Protection. Give up that survivability for the extra burst.
True Prot PvP uses PvE gear mostly - your defence rating makes up for the lack of resilience to a great extent....
Edit: 1500 ping?
MischievousLoki - you also missed out Sacred Shield, Divine Plea, Holy Shield...
Post by
00bender00
Dont use battlemaster's. It's not worth as ret. If you're gonna get gibbed it wont save you.
Use 2 wintergrasp trinkets, 190 ap + pvp trinket on use and 95 res + ap on use.
As for the hateful libram, may i ask you where you intend to obtain it? =P
The rest is pretty much ok, but swap the spell power ring for the melee one.
Also, if you could get yer hands on a better weapon...
Now on the talents: you dont want righteous vengeance because ticks break repentance (needed to full duration if you want to have a 5% chance to kill any healer...).
Divine Purpose also is a must, swap around. Grab improved righteous fury, not everyone can dispel it.
You also want full sanctified wrath, for obvious burst reasons. Vindication? Trash debuff.
1 point in e4e for grounding totem killing.
Go for something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZqGzhRZVfdtdIuGdIbsz:zjs0zV
...and play double dps in the beginning, at least until you can get a decent weapon.
Ret/Rogue would be great, well timed ccs and rogue poisons / stuns could compensate your gear.
If you have more questions about gear / strats / comps i can give you my MSN Messenger contact.
Post by
Quest
True Prot PvP uses PvE gear mostly - your defence rating makes up for the lack of resilience to a great extent....
Edit: 1500 ping?
Yup /wrists
Dont use battlemaster's. It's not worth as ret. If you're gonna get gibbed it wont save you.
Use 2 wintergrasp trinkets, 190 ap + pvp trinket on use and 95 res + ap on use.
Yeah but I'm a crit @#$%^. I redid the profile a bit.
As for the hateful libram, may i ask you where you intend to obtain it? =P
The rest is pretty much ok, but swap the spell power ring for the melee one.
Also, if you could get yer hands on a better weapon...
Do'h. Redone. Im not sure if Im gonna get the titan or grinde revered ebon. I have to grind ebon anyway for the head enchant, and it comes with a very good, if blue, 2h. CHOICES!
Now on the talents: you dont want righteous vengeance because ticks break repentance (needed to full duration if you want to have a 5% chance to kill any healer...).
Divine Purpose also is a must, swap around. Grab improved righteous fury, not everyone can dispel it.
You also want full sanctified wrath, for obvious burst reasons. Vindication? Trash debuff.
1 point in e4e for grounding totem killing.
Go for something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZqGzhRZVfdtdIuGdIbsz:zjs0zV
...and play double dps in the beginning, at least until you can get a decent weapon.
Ret/Rogue would be great, well timed ccs and rogue poisons / stuns could compensate your gear.
If you have more questions about gear / strats / comps i can give you my MSN Messenger contact.
I will consider this if I decide to arena/find someone. Thanks for the tips!
Post by
Quest
Updated with
http://profiler.wowhead.com/?item=46086
/drool
Post by
00bender00
Updated with
http://profiler.wowhead.com/?item=46086
/drool
Wintergrasp enchant can be as good as well. It's still 50 ap / 20 useful rating.
PeeveePee trinket.... WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :P
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46082
Or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46084
if you REALLY want the crit.
Cant you tank your way to a Naxx Heroic weapon? I think most pugs would let a good tank roll on a 2h weapon for offspec. Just dont get too many DKs in raid. Best one if you like crit is
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40208
, but any item level 213 would do a world of difference tbh.
An
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45282
from U10 would be great too, its just the firstboss, you can pug it with 6/7 people.
Post by
Quest
If I can get a group Ill try for Ironsoul.
PS Im hungry.
Post Reply
You are not logged in. Please
log in
to post a reply or
register
if you don't already have an account.