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Enh Shaman Vs DK Relics T9
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Post by
Valer
Why are these two peices so totally unfair.
DK - Each time you use your Obliterate or Scourge Strike ability, you have a chance to gain 200 strength for 20 sec.
200 Strength = 400ap
Enh Shaman - Each time you use your Lava Lash ability, you have a chance to gain 200 attack power for 18 sec.
200ap = 200ap also - 2 seconds
Both classes are hyrbirds so why are dks still getting treated as though they are pure dps.
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dhampir1989
Damn those hunters not needing arrows!
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Post by
pezz
Aside from your random premature QQing (which has already been covered), you have no idea what the PPM for either of those Relics are going to be.
Post by
Valer
Well without any information it would be quite natural to assume they are both the same.
They might not be but i doubt it. This is why everyone hates dks they get special treatment, even most dks are complaining about how people hate them.
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Post by
dhampir1989
Damn those hunters not needing arrows!
What do you mean hunters don't need arrows?
It was or the PTR, Hunters not needing arrows anymore =/
Is it only in effect on the PTR server? Cause I didnt see anything in patch notes.
It was a proposed change in 3.1
My point was the PTR =/= live change.
Post by
Booterang
Those relics clearly are not on the same power level though. Unless the enhance shaman one gets changed to 200 agility the deathknight sigil is almost twice as good (subject to stat scaling, 2 ap per strength, etc.) giving the equivalent of 400 ap. It is also only natural to expect the proc time to be about the same.
Either the shaman one should be changed to agility or 400 ap, or the deathknight one should be suitably reduced.
Post by
Zandranas
Big assumption that the proc rates will be the same... Given that LL has a 6 second CD and DKs can pump out 3 Ob or SS in 3 GCDs I really doubt that the DK sigil will be as high.
Also - note the duration - OMG DKs get 2 more seconds of buff...
I'll bet on much better proc rate from the totem > sigil.
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Booterang
Big assumption that the proc rates will be the same... Given that LL has a 6 second CD and DKs can pump out 3 Ob or SS in 3 GCDs I really doubt that the DK sigil will be as high.
Also - note the duration - OMG DKs get 2 more seconds of buff...
I'll bet on much better proc rate from the totem > sigil.
Actually, assuming the enhance tier 9 set bonus that has been released is correct, lavalash will have a four second cooldown for a geared shaman.
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Post by
HiggsBoson
Actually that 200 strength would be more like 528 AP in Frost or 580 in Unholy.
Post by
KikiTheMan
Actually that 200 strength would be more like 528 AP in Frost or 580 in Unholy.
wait wut ?
Post by
GenXCub
You forget one thing. The Dk sigil also affects tanks, as strength = parry rating.
I highly doubt a tanking DK in Tier 9 will want to have a random chance to get 50 parry rating, which is barely over 1% avoidance when the 5-man heroic Badge sigil gives more than that and is on all the time due to IT.
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