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Post by
Achloryn
I don't think all of this changes are official, at least by looking at all the comments that follow on that thread. Besides, having Hot Streak proc every time you score 2 non-periodic spell crit cannot be right: that means you want to have LOW crit rating, right? That way, you can always have instant casts pyroblasts.... insane.
And wtf are they planning to do with Slow Fall? I don't know if I got it wrong, but are they planning to make it so that you cannot cast it on yourself?
Let's not forget the T9 Item Set!
Blizzard sure outdid themselves this time:
Mage T9 2P Bonus (Class: Mage) -- Increases the armor you gain from Ice Armor by 20%, the mana regeneration you gain from Mage Armor by 10%, and converts an additional 25% of your spirit into critical strike rating when Molten Armor is active.
Mage T9 4P Bonus (Fireball, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Arcane Blast) (Class: Mage) -- Increases the critical strike chance of your Fireball, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Arcane Blast spells by 5%
Armor? Why do clothies need armor? No spellpower proc bonuses? Please, someone
PLEASE
tell me Blizzard is kidding.
i think the changes they're making to hot streak have to deal with it not being procced off of LB/ignite ticks (which it didn't anyway, so that change doesn't make much sense to me). They worded it rather strangely so i'm not sure.
Slow fall.. makes it sound to me like they just don't want you casting it on people not in your party/raid group. You can still cast it on yourself, just not on random tard number 4 who's in the area you are.
I'm really focused on the change to ignite.. looks like they're FINALLY trying to do something about munching! So living bomb's DoT, when it crits, will no longer trigger ignite, but all other crits will.
I must say i am much more pleased with how this is turning out for us now. Perhaps they did listen to us a little bit after all... I will still be interested to see how the change to arcane goes. (7/14/28% of base mana down from 8/16/32%)
except for the mage armor thing.. an extra 10% when we can already get over 100% if we were so inclined? really? wow. that's worse than the armor bonus from frost armor..
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Post by
Darkwraith01
Wait nono, I think you misunderstood the crit part about Hot Streak. What they mean is it only procs when you crit twice in a row with your direct damage spells. (IE - No Living Bomb) Think it may have been a bug fix more than anything else (although I personally haven't been having that bug).
If that is the case, then the
Glyph of Living Bomb
is completely nerfed, since the real benefit from it was to have some crits to play around with Hot Streak.
About the T9 bonuses, they are terrible. I really hope they change that before the patch goes live.
Blizzard really needed to pay more attention to mage Tier gear. I understand that with Torment Spec in mind you need more Hit then other specs, but why not have some pieces with Haste + Crit? if the
Robes of the Umbral Brute
was a part of the T8.5, it would have made the Item Set much more attractive.
Post by
nickseng
If that is the case, then the
Glyph of Living Bomb
is completely nerfed, since the real benefit from it was to have some crits to play around with Hot Streak..
Living Bomb's periodic crits never procced Hot Streak in the first place, and it was never meant to. And it isn't a waste, coz the crit damage is worth it.
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Post by
twsX
Proof: People will always complain, no matter what their status is.
Come on guys, us mages, we're doing ok. We don't need to be buffed right now.
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Post by
twsX
I'm not.
We're damage dealers. Mages usually rank among the upper ranges in damage. (at least they do in my guild and most guilds i know).
We may not be #1, but who really needs to be #1?
Btw, i'm only talking about PvE here. I have no opinion whatsoever about PvP.
Post by
Achloryn
I'm not.
We're damage dealers. Mages usually rank among the upper ranges in damage. (at least they do in my guild and most guilds i know).
We may not be #1, but who really needs to be #1?
Btw, i'm only talking about PvE here. I have no opinion whatsoever about PvP.
for solely talking about pve, i kinda see your point.. we're not like ridiculously underpowered and we're not being outdone by hybrid classes on a regular basis in damage overall.. we definitely have the
ability
to be number one regularly as well. i'm actually somewhat pleased with the changes blizz is making.. i think what got everyone so up in arms was the fact that blizzard out and out refused to ANSWER a lot of our questions by evading and misdirecting... it sounded very political. Also, the fact that all these other classes are getting buffs whereas we were getting... nothing really (in the first set of updates anyway) was rather asinine.. They buff hunters, warlocks.. rogues stay about the same.. we stay about the same.. The thing is.. rogues didn't need any help, as we were already falling behind hunters, rogues, and locks in terms of pure dps classes... the changes that we were getting comparatively are laughable.. Granted, i don't mind about specifically being number one, but i dont want to start falling behind either.
Post by
Darkwraith01
I'm not.
We're damage dealers. Mages usually rank among the upper ranges in damage. (at least they do in my guild and most guilds i know).
We may not be #1, but who really needs to be #1?
Btw, i'm only talking about PvE here. I have no opinion whatsoever about PvP.
I can't agree with you twsX. If mages were hybrids, I would, but for a dps class that wears cloth, burns mana like crazy, has no
real
pets (like hunters, warlocks and DKs), and has #$%^ty raid buffs, it should be always on top 3 damage charts AT THE VERY LEAST.
As it is today, a Naxx 10-25 geared rogue or hunter can completely out-damage mages in fights where we don't get buffs (like Holdir, Iron Council, etc.).
It's just sad.
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Post by
Achloryn
They did nerf one thing about us: Portals. Now that there is a portal between SW/Org to the dark portal , and that there is a flight path from the dark portal to Shattrath, and the new zep from Org to TB, people will buy less portals.
if thats all you have to complain about, i'd say thats a winning situation. lol
i sell many more portals to dalaran than anywhere else anyway.. so.. /shrug.. that won't bother me much.
Post by
Skyfire
You can always find someone in the middle of nowhere who will want a port.
Post by
Darkwraith01
I just checked the PTR Mage Tier Items.. if they do make into final release, I'll take back everything I've ever said about Blizzard screweing up the mage Tier Items...
Head Piece:
Khadgar's Hood of Triumph
Shoulders:
Khadgar's Shoulderpads of Triumph
Chest:
Khadgar's Robe of Triumph
Legs:
Khadgar's Leggings of Triumph
Hands:
Khadgar's Gauntlets of Triumph
The 2p/4p bonuses are ok (no extra sp bonus, but nice crit/crit chance), but the gear stats are amazing, specially the shoulder and hand pieces.
And lets not forget nice crafting gear such as
Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers
.
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Post by
Telrasha
Who played a mage in raids in BC?
If you say no, and you're complaining, then stfu. You don't know how bad it once was.
If you say yes, and you're complaining, then just think about how much better you are now.
Those of us that raided Pre-BC, remember how awesome we were then? No one could come close to us, if you knew how to play the class. then yes, we got the nerf bat in BC and weren't as amazing, but then Wrath came out and we're not doing that bad.
If you saw the Q&A, Blizz is starting to see some of our complaints, but missing some of the bigger ones. They'll see it eventually.
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Post by
nickseng
It'll be sad to see you and Dant leave. :(
Everyone's quitting nowadays. :/
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