Sounds interesting, but I don't know how I feel about having to go back and clear bosses that no one needs normal loot from just for a chance at a Thunderforged item. Seems like more farming. Though I do suppose we'd be clearing bosses anyway, I'd be skeptical with a multi-raid version. Example, nobody needs anything any more from MSV, so no point in clearing it anymore. If this is applied to a raid tier down the line like the one we have presently, it could have guilds having to farm that teir's "MSV" for the chance at the Thunderforged loot.Now what I wouldn't mind is if the 25man version had a chance to drop items that are already valor upgraded.
What I don't understand is why they can't just let 25m drop an extra item, say 20% of the time? It seems fair, given the harder logistic challenge, yet doesn't progress them substantially over 10m. Aren't thunderforged items the same deal, except with a different color? The irony is that 25m raids are easier to do once logistics are handled, in that if one dps person dies, its not the end of a battle! In 10m, everyone has to preform their roles to near perfection, especially on heroic. I still don't get why they didn't do something like this for the last several years.
You 25 suckers are just sick. Get a grip on yourself of try to use logic every now and then.Blizzard has screwed up twice now. In Vanilla, TBC and ICC. I sincerely hope they will not do it again.Do you really think that it's all about dropping to 10man to beat the content? 25s now are where they are supposed to be, and I am totally fine with this bone thrown to them - a higher chance of better loot. That's as much as they deserve. 25man raiding is an option that not only leader takes, but also players in general. It's called non-material excitement. Of course, we live in a material world, and people see 10man providing more rough value. But it's exactly as GC said:
would be nice .... now its up to guild master to put a 25 man raid on calendar
"You’ll now see a 5.2 raid item of LFR quality at item level 502"wtf blizz... lfr gear 502 ilvl are you having a laugh basically your making msv and hof completely useless as lfr will be 10x easier and give just as good loot...
Maybe more people would do 25's if they didn't make that stupid decision to have 10 man and 25 man dungeons be an either/or affair. They don't need to go back to how it was in LK where it was different loot for both, but giving players the opportunity to run a REAL raid (not LFR) twice a week in two different situations (once in 10, once in 25) would mean players would have more to do, and, thus, more reason to keep their subscriptions up.Also, them saying not enough people do 25 man's is kinda their fault, seeing as how the reason they made 10 and 25 mans share the same lockout was because they didn't feel enough people were doing 25 man's.
Separate lockouts for 10 & 25 is and was a bad idea, it caused player burnout and boredom having to run the same stuff twice a week. Personally, and everyone will have a different opinion, I don't like this idea. There's already too much RNG in the game and its extremely infuriating at times, the other week I did 35 consecutive bosses in LFR on 2 chars before a piece of loot dropped for me, it sucks. Again, IMO, the only way to make 25 more attractive is to have completely different content. Like back in the TBC days, Karazhan and Maggy, Gruul etc, if you don't form a 25 group you don't get to access the content. It would take balls of steel from Blizz to go back to that model though.