I totally agree with him about the skill concept.
PvE isn't skill.
Since when has WoW required skill?
The thing that gets me about "skill" is that to far to many high end guilds it is equated to experience. While it is certainly true that downing boss X shows a certain level of knowledge it is not the be all end all. What about the guy that was in a casual raiding guild that couldn't seem to down that boss? According to alot, I would say a majority, of high end raiding guilds(not even top, just more hardcore even) the fact that you have been loyal to your previous guild is a detriment because it stifled your own progression.
My Tychus authenticator can kick your Raynor authenticator's butt.Well, as long as we're not delving into spoiler territory, anyway. :P
The only "skill" required in World of Warcraft is the 'skill' it takes to quit.
People who say WoW doesn't take skill are absolute fools. If this was the case, we would all be raiding the very end bosses easily and be decked in epics right now, but we aren't. We still have people struggling with heroics.Yes, the dedicated will get there faster. But those who are rubbish at the game won't get there at all because, guess what - it takes some aspect of skill.Anyway, a skillfull player to me is one who has the ability to adapt and improvise. So a Priest who knows how to tug crap DPS out of fire, a tank who can not only position a mob but can have his eye on all his group members, ready to intervene (spell and literal!) at any moment, DPS who have their rotation nailed down so tight that they can keep an eye out, toss emergency heals, HoP for Paladins etc.That's my take on it at least.
I agree with Bashiok about it very much. Raiding isn't a competition, players only make it that way. Raiding takes a more personal approach to the competitive aspect, as the only people your raid group should be competing with is itself, to try harder to get that boss down. Ok, I have a weird example for this. Have any of you watched the show Ninja Warrior on G4? The premise of it is an obstacle course that you have a certain time limit to beat. Anyone from anywhere, any walk of life, can try it out. There is no real First Place trophy. If you beat it, you do get a spot in a Hall of Fame of sorts, but you aren't competing with the other people. The only person you are competing with is yourself. If you can make that jump, climb that rope or ladder, you feel like you accomplished something. There is no true competition for it, and the people who participate end up sitting there and cheer the rest of the contenders on. That's what raiding is to me. A group of people trying to accomplish something, going through an obstacle course, and pushing themselves farther, not competing with other people.EDIT: I'd like to know exactly which post this was, as I don't trust the very bad search feature on the new WoW Forums.
The power of Raynor compels me... to buy another authenticator... just for its collector's value...
*Shakes boring red corehound authenticator around* JEALOOOOOOUS.
Considering the horribad pugs I've experienced at times, there is DEFINITELY a skill component to WoW, PvE or otherwise.
I'm really starting to dislike the term "skill". Sure, WoW requires a little bit of skill to play. However, above ALL else, it requires patience and time, whether it be leveling your character, grinding reputation, learning your class, learning an encounter, etc. Just because it doesn't take a lot of skill to, say, strafe out of a fire, doesn't mean that PvE as a whole is easy.When some dude waltzes around, shouting "PvE takes no skill!" They're frankly just finding an excuse to stroke their egos. Elitism is all it is, IMO.
Haha, if pve don't require skills, nothing really does. If it didn't everyone would have done pretty much everything without effort. Retarded players saying pve doesn't require skill cause they want a concrete reason to play pvp only, I don't think you play it cause it requires skill, but that it is funny.While many people playing is 20 years or older you sure are naive for your age.
Dunning–Kruger effect. People with no skill believe that the task is easy, and that no-one does it much better than them. Driving is a scary example of this, huge numbers of people believe themselves to be "good" drivers despite not even meeting their country's basic test standard.