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Why sometimes I really just wanna quit playing world of warcraft
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Post by
Shurkeckt
Also seems that you were doing a lot of guild hopping without finding out anything about the guilds you were joining, which is a good way of ending up in multiple guilds over time that didn't do the things you wanted to, which happened to you.
Not sure where the best place is these days to see guild lists that are recruiting on your realm, but try your realm forums on the official wow site - got to be better than just jumping in to whichever guild has someone spamming /2
A lot of guilds out there will also instantly assume you know what you're doing in various raids unless you let them know that you're unsure of the tactics. As gunstarr said - do your homework, check out askmrrobot.com and mess around with the filters to see where you can improve gear with reforging / gems etc and to see where you can get easy upgrades (Shado Pan Assault probably have some valor pieces that could help you).
If you really want to do raids with a guild (i.e. not just LFR stuff) then take the time to read up tactics / watch videos. I'm only doing LFR at the minute due to the fact I can't commit to set raid times, but in the past I've been an officer in a guild that were progressing through content (TBC / WotLK) - the number one annoyance of officers / raid leaders were people that when asked "Everyone know what to do here?", stayed silent until a wipe then would say that they weren't sure...
TL:DR
- You can do a lot more to help yourself than you have tried thus far, the internet is full of the kind of info that would minimise your 'noob factor' as you called it - and if you're in a guild worth sticking with, they'll help you out if you can be seen to be at least trying to help yourself.
Post by
lankybrit
First mistake was bailing from the guild that was simply following the rules and put you inactive. If you'd just sucked it up and done whatever it took to get off inactive, none of any of this would have been necessary.
You're right that finding the right guild is tough, and starting one and making it successful is even tougher. That's why bailing from a good guild (for a minor reason) is a really bad move.
And yes, if you want to Raid in a Raiding guild, you have to put in the work. Then it might feel like a job to some, or perhaps just a challenge, and rewarding, to others. You don't sound like you really want this, so I would suggest you just do LFR instead, and look for a friendly active guild that doesn't necessarily Raid.
And,
http://www.icy-veins.com/
is your friend.
Cheers.
Post by
Azrile
There are a lot of guilds that are only together for the perks. If you joined a random guild without any research or knowing anyone beforehand, what do you expect. Usually even in those type of guilds you can find a few people who play when you do an end up developing friendships.
But yeah, you jump into a guild you don´t know, then become obnoxious in guildchat? Those guilds that invite anyone are usually pretty quick to squelch trouble-makers also.
MMOs are a bit more than just a game. they are very complicated and if you want to be doing endgame stuff and being useful, you have to do a minimum amount of research.
Post by
Nathanyal
I just can't see the point in any of this anymore.
I haven't read most of it, but I did see this and can offer up one big piece of advice.
The point of this game is to have fun. If you're not having fun then there is no reason to play. To some people getting achievements is fun and they like to show them off. Others (myself included) like to raid and do the best we can. There are lots of things to do that are fun, and different people have different things they like to do in game.
Post by
Sas148
Um... Ok. I'm glad you worked it out for yourself, although I think this post would be more appropriate in, like, a WoW addict recovery forum. I'm sure there's some out there. Enjoy life.
Um... Ok. I'm glad you worked it out for yourself, although I think this post would be more appropriate in, like, a WoW addict recovery forum. I'm sure there's some out there. Enjoy life.
It may be worth posting there, but this isn't the first thread about this topic. If someone is giving me feedback on their experience of my product which might be following a trend, I would want to know.
The game was built as an MMO; it no longer plays that way, as evidenced by his experience of many defunct guilds, calilac's own somewhat dismissive comments, and the impact of LFR and LFD.
I guess a question I would wonder about: How do you "require" social interaction and healthy communication and team play while still making the game accessible to the lowest common denominator, to people who don't have the social skills to "play well with others." (Which, unfortunately, we gamers get stereotyped as with due reason.)
Others have posited that it's about money; Make all content available to keep everyone happy.
I think it's worth it to have a game designed to weed out those who can't work well with others. There are many great single player games; WoW shouldn't be one of them.(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##Moved from duplicate topic.
Post by
shan750
If I wanted to join a raiding guild, I would only join 1 that required me to fill out an application... Shows me they're serious.
Most "raiding guilds" that simply "guild invite" you after whispering their GMs/officers IMO are not likely to be that good.
Post by
Mike
I start playing world of warcraft about nine months ago. I have five characters 2 on level 60 1 on level 55, one on level 12 and a level 90 arms warrior with 507 armour average. Needless, to say my arms warrior is my main.
Be sure to stick with one character at a time. So many people have been and gone because they couldnt stick with one character, then quit because they never got anywhere.
I don't understand why anyone would want to be apart of a guild that never talked to each other and I found most guilds were like that. They were socially dead.
Sadly this is quite common, there are so many guilds on each realm, and each guild leader wants their specific guild to be the best, they invite so many random people. It just tends to be so quiet in guild chat because no one knows each other, or the guild members just don't really try to socially interact because, to most of them, it's just a random guild they were invited to while leveling; and from what I've experienced, it's a very volatile place to be in. Fights start out quite easily and people are easily offended.
If armour dropped and it was cloth and my hand armour was level 100 and that was 110 I would go with the cloth armour because it made sense. So I would wear anything.
Don't stress out too much about that kind of stuff, it took me about 7 months when I first started playing early 2007 to get a decent grasp on how the game was meant to be played.
I dinged at level 90 and made my first alt.
Max level is where the game really starts, what you did, is about the same as installing a game, starting a new game, then reinstalling the game again.
This was after two weeks of none of the officers or guild masters being online.
Guilds die every day, it's nothing surprising. I've been part of amazing top tier guilds that suddenly die the next week.
I really wanted to raid more and with a wanker of an officer. I left for silvermoon
You
pay
to play the game for your own fun and entertainment, there is no reason for you to stay in a guild that you don't like or not having fun in.
Silvermoon has lots of raid guilds and pro-raid guilds, I got into one straight away
There is a really good website called
WoW Progress
, if you ever want to look for a raiding guild, this is the place to go. Look for a guild that your level of progression, if they're not recruiting, start looking down the list (or up, if you can impress them).
But I now have the feeling that there is more to life than being good at a game.
WoW is a game where people can escape their real life issues or drama to a new world where you can be anyone you want to be. To some people it's a lot more than that, it's their only life. Playing this game for almost 6 years now, I have met some strange, and amazing people. I've recently met someone who was bound to their home never being allowed to leave due to medical reasons. WoW is their only way of coping with their real life issues.
If I walked into a job and told them I have every achievement in most of the raid and dungeons, do you think they are going to give me a job? I just can't see the point in any of this anymore.
To add to my previous paragraph, this game is just another form of entertainment. Every person spends their free time differently. One person watches TV, the next builds a model car, that guy over there goes outside and plays sport, and the lady over there spends her time at the pub playing the poker machines.
Do you think those people add those hobbies in to their resume? Try not to think of WoW as anything other a form of entertainment that you play during your free time. To top it off, it's also a cheap form of entertainment, only $15 a month, for unlimited game play and endless content. It really is a bargain compared other Free2Play games with low production value.
Also to add, next patch will be releasing Flexi-Raid, this will bring back a lot of casual raiders, such as people who spend a lot of their time working with not as much free time to dedicate themselves to a raiding guild.
Personally, I've spent over 300 days playing WoW, that's 7200 hours. During that time, I've worked, not worked, and was at school, as well as university. I coped perfectly well mixing in my WoW time with my real life duties. I've had some amazing moments, some bad, some sad, I've met some amazing people who are now my real life friends, I've met people whom I would call them a Brother, and a Sister.
I just hope you continue playing WoW so you too get to meet your own bunch of amazing friends.
It's a small world. Who knows, that person you walked past while leveling in Stranglethorn Vale could be a guy your age living a few blocks down from your house and have the same interests as you do.
Post by
Wombat62
I I don't understand why anyone would want to be apart of a guild that never talked to each other and I found most guilds were like that. They were socially dead.
Sadly this is quite common, there are so many guilds on each realm, and each guild leader wants their specific guild to be the best, they invite so many random people. It just tends to be so quiet in guild chat because no one knows each other, or the guild members just don't really try to socially interact because, to most of them, it's just a random guild they were invited to while leveling; and from what I've experienced, it's a very volatile place to be in. Fights start out quite easily and people are easily offended.
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Personally I don't talk much in guild chat because when I am press keys to type words I am not pressing keys to play the game . I don't pay my monthly subscription to have my toon sit idle while I chat away .
We have a few talkers in the guild and a few who dont talk much , you can tell which is which by just going to a site like wow heroes and checking the gear each of them have , if its gemmed , enchanted etc ( hint -the ones that don't waste their time talking are the ones with the better gear and have plenty of gold )
We have pretty strict rules in the guild as well , we never invite randoms and we never invite anyone spamming chat with " looking for guild " . When we recruit we ask each persective member some questions and explain the standard expected by our members ( things like trolling in trade/fgeneral will get you warned once and kicked 2nd time , any abuse to anyone gets you instantly kicked )
We play the game because we like the concept/playstyle etc not because you can chat with people who otherwise you would never know .
Post by
Jkpman
I just can't see the point in any of this anymore.
Decision made, Quit playing.
If armour dropped and it was cloth and my hand armour was level 100 and that was 110 I would go with the cloth armour because it made sense. So I would wear anything.
Can never get my head around people who think like this. ALL the info you need is there on the character creation screen, If players stopped and spent 30 seconds reading a lot of basic mistakes could be avoided. (30 secs reading Vs months blundering around in the game clueless)
Silvermoon has lots of raid guilds and pro-raid guilds, I got into one straight away. They let me do a throne of thunder, went in and they decided my armour needed to be reforged so they made me reforge my armour and then they made me change my gems. Which is fair enough because I didn't know, I never really researched any of this sort of stuff. I ended up leaving the guild, how I played in the throne of thunder was embarrassing. The noob factor was of the charts.
I agree, you had no right even setting foot into the raid. BUT aside from the obvious (Google your class and role, basic preparedness for a raid, common courtesy to the other 9/24 players to ensure you do not suck) the game lets players /faceroll into a position where they can get into a raid.
To the detriment of the whole game.
As much as I loathe Zelda games, maybe we need a Navi character that pops up for new players or hell even lvl 90s:
"Hey! You wear mail, cloth is not as effective"
"Listen! Get mail with Agility not Intellect you huntard!"
Post by
lonewolfe31705
As much as I loathe Zelda games, maybe we need a Navi character that pops up for new players or hell even lvl 90s:
"Hey! You wear mail, cloth is not as effective"
"Listen! Get mail with Agility not Intellect you huntard!"
This made my day....Hey! Listen! Hey! Listen!
Post by
Mike
Personally I don't talk much in guild chat because when I am press keys to type words I am not pressing keys to play the game . I don't pay my monthly subscription to have my toon sit idle while I chat away.
You make it sound like stopping to type a sentence takes a lifetime...
We have a few talkers in the guild and a few who dont talk much , you can tell which is which by just going to a site like wow heroes and checking the gear each of them have , if its gemmed , enchanted etc ( hint -the ones that don't waste their time talking are the ones with the better gear and have plenty of gold )
The people with good gear are the people who care about their gear and progression, it's got nothing to do with them being socially active, or talking to people or anything.
I never stop talking to people on my friends list, trade chat, guild chat, dungeon finder.... yet my gear is ilvl 535 and sitting on 90,000 Gold. That argument seems very one sided with little to none evidence.
We play the game because we like the concept/playstyle etc not because you can chat with people who otherwise you would never know
I don't know where I would be today without the people I met on WoW. It's your loss if you don't want to socialise in an MMO, as I mentioned earlier "that person you walked by could be your next best friend" (something like that).
Post by
Grotto
Mr. RiseinBlood
, have you tried starting a new character and leveling professions and all secondary professions to the maximum? Now, that's an accomplishment worth setting a goal for. It's something you can easily do as a solo player at your leisure,
and
if you're in a guild, you could craft items for fellow guildies. I bet that would get them to socialize with you.
You'd be on everyones friends list for sure.
Not to mention all the gold that would be coming your way from the AH!
Post by
Wearyhead
I can strongly identify with your feelings. Many people forget that this is MMO game where social part is as much important as the playing. But that's how things look like nowadays: instead of talking, helping each other, socialize, people just get ilvls and make "insane progress". And what when you ask something on trade channel? You get answers like:
google it, you noob
. That's sad. I've only been in a serious guild once. The GM was nice, there were some events from time to time, but unfortunately we didn't like each other. But this guild was an old one and I think that this has something to do with new generation of WoW players. Ask
ANY
of Vanilla or TBC player about the game nowadays and they will tell you same thing: it's not like it used to be. The game lost its value, lost something that make them different from other MMOs. It's more simplified, less demanding, but I guess that Azeroth just goes with the flow. The flow of modern living.
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