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Post by
MasterOutlaw
When you attack the same target as your spirit the spirit immediately stops mirroring your abilities and will only auto-attack until you change targets again. It's a dps
decrease
to use it single-target and that's almost guaranteed to be intentional. Really it's just a fancy-looking cleave.
As far as I know Recount has always calculated SEF properly, Skada's the one that's messed up at the moment (recording the monk and spirit as being separate players).
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Post by
lucius
So if I mean well it is a situational spell then and only worth to use in specific encounters. That's sad.
Thank you for clarifying ;-)
I'd be more sad if it was a spell i was forced to use all the time. Choice is important.
Post by
jackalof73
I love this new spell. I have it on a mouseover macro and anytime there is more than one target I use it. So lovely on multiple trash to pull out both and start Spinning crane kick and see the #'s fly. I am barely heroic geared and on trash I pull 100+k dps because of this.
Post by
Juuzou
I never use this ability... imo it's useless (I only PvP btw, have no idea for PvE)
Post by
jackalof73
@Casper There are uses for it in pvp too. Like in Bg's you can use it to apply pressure to multiple ppl (just because your dmg is lowered doesn't mean you still are not applying pressure). In arena it is nice to pull out when you are getting ready to burst on someone using a stun with FoF to stick one mirror on the healer or dps if your bursting healer that way both players get stunned.
Anyway I love this spell and hope they never change it (unless they want to buff the dmg or hp's of the mirrors) haha.
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Morguean
This spell is for AOE or multiple group mobs only. do NOT EVER use it on a single target situation, UNLESS you cannot physically get to the mob to attack it, then just stand there, hit the spell, then spinning crane kick (rushing jade wind) and fist of fury. the clone will duplicate what you do (just don't single target attack the mob).
Now thats a VERY special case scenario (very specific rares on timeless isle: houlon, archie, and cinder comes to mind)
in a normal single target fight you will never use this spell. ever. period. so don't even try it.
Post by
Rankkor
So if I mean well it is a situational spell then and only worth to use in specific encounters. That's sad.
Thank you for clarifying ;-)
I'd be more sad if it was a spell i was forced to use all the time. Choice is important.
I'd be more sad if it was a Cooldown only to be used rarely.
This ability can be toggled on and off at will, and can be used at any moment when required.
Its pretty good for Council-Type bosses like the Fallen Protectors or the Dark Shaman, and its equally great for bosses with a large number of adds like Nazgrim or Galakras. Considering that almost every boss in SoO falls into one of these categories, that means this is a god-sent spell for almost every encounter.
Bosses with plenty of adds: Norushen, Galakras, Nazgrim, Spoils, Garrosh.
Council-type bosses: Fallen Protectors, Dark Shaman, and technically Blackfuse (If you are on belt duty you can put a clone on the boss, and then attack the weapons on the belt)
Even on Thok this thing is useful, during the Blood Frenzy phase where melee can't stay near the boss you can easily place a clone on the boss, while attacking the Jailers, resulting in a DPS gain. And in Sha you can easily place a clone near the big adds to help DPS it down while attacking the boss
Frankly, out of all 14 bosses in SoO the only ones where you don't use the spell at all are Immersious, Iron Jugg, Malkorok, and Paragons. That's 4 out of 14 bosses. And then there's its unbelievably good usage on Trash Mobs.
For a "situational" spell, I could think of much MUCH worse offenders. (Remorseless winter comes to mind)
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Morguean
you COULD use it on Immerseus, if for instance you were handling a wedge on your own, and needed a layered source of stuns (fist of fury/leg sweep). it would be less than ideal, but still has potential
I wouldn't use it that way though, unless I just had no other choice
Post by
Adamsm
you COULD use it on Immerseus, if for instance you were handling a wedge on your own, and needed a layered source of stuns (fist of fury/leg sweep). it would be less than ideal, but still has potential
I wouldn't use it that way though, unless I just had no other choice
The Clones do not stun, and they don't copy Leg Sweep, so bad plan.
Post by
Rankkor
you COULD use it on Immerseus, if for instance you were handling a wedge on your own, and needed a layered source of stuns (fist of fury/leg sweep). it would be less than ideal, but still has potential
I wouldn't use it that way though, unless I just had no other choice
The Clones do not stun, and they don't copy Leg Sweep, so bad plan.
yeah they don't copy any CC ability, they only copy your damaging attacks. They can use Fist of Fury, but theirs wont stun. Would be kinda OP that a monk could simultaneously CC 3 separate targets at the same time.
And I'd like to make an amendment to my previous statement on the bosses were you can't use Storm Earth and Fire. You CAN use it too on Paragons to DPS the bloods and the Kunchongs without having to leave the boss. So that makes it 11 out of 14 bosses where the ability is useful. And the trash.
Yeah this spell isn't very "situational" when its more uncommon to NOT use it, than to actually use it.
Post by
Morguean
Thats good to know they won't copy the CC component (which I kind of suspected). I do enjoy using SEF when there are times I can't get to the mob (or its too dangerous to be close, like Archy, or Cinder on timeless isle).
Once I learned how to properly use it, it became really helpful as an oh %^&* button. Though someone mentioned in the spell listing to not use this on a Shaman in PVP. I would assume theres a reason, but as I really don't know much about shaman (and rarely pvp)..
Post by
Mikemcnik
@Morguean
When you use the spell, I do believe that you become susceptible to a shaman's Bind Elemental spell.
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