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CyboKid
Hi guys,
I was wondering which of the following you find to be the best:
or
Deadly Retinal Armor
I just had the crown drop and using the deadly retinal armor at the present, so wondering if it would be better to change :)
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Post by
Nooska
Well, since you can't reforge to a stat thats alreayd on, it becomes a matter of 832 useful secondary rating versus 1200 useful secondary rating.
Adding in the secondary from the socket its 160 more secondary rating for a total of 992.
Split like this (we will ignore hit/exp and assume you can cap this elsewhere for a compariosn that inherently favors the crown);
743 crit and 249 mastery and +69 agi
versus
600 crit and 600 mastery.
Crit and mastery being about equal that means
69 agi versus 208 secondary rating.
Heading over to the BM guide where I have some math for socket boni and secondary stats, we find that ~80 rating is worth ~30 agi, so we solve for that and get that the rating is worth 2.6 units, and the agi is worth 2.3 units.
This means that for dps the goggles are superior, though not by so much that I would suggest getting them if you don't have them around.
This comparison neatly ignores the thing most in favor of the goggles - that you will never waste stats on them - and if you are trying to reach hit/exp cap, then the goggles win hands down with 1200 points of accuracy rating.
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Nooska
Actually, its the other way around, the non-desired stat is haste, period. We can always reforge hit or exp to crit or mastery.
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Post by
Twizelbang
With the new patch in place & being able to upgrade the item level of gear.
I think
Crown of the Doomed Empress
would work out better, since i don't think the Cogwheels can be upgraded. Anyone else have any ideas if they get effected by the item level upgrade ability ?
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Post by
Twizelbang
I dont think they are affected, but still...why would you want to waste VP to upgrade that crappy head?
Why not buy
Hawkmaster's Headguard
instead?
Upgrade is so easy & if you don't have the Shado-pan -Revered, then why not upgrade it ?
By the time you get Revered you will have loads of Justice Points, to spend on what ? Same goes with Valor Points, you can farm them so quick.. it doesn't matter.
It's impossible to run dry on Justice points, Valor points.... With how many options you get given to get them. So perhaps this option is what this person might like to do.
This is a option you can choose.. a DPS upgrade is always nice. You don't have to decide to waste Valor points, if you lack them, but then thats just common sense.....
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This is a option you can choose.. a DPS upgrade is always nice. You don't have to decide to waste Valor points, if you lack them, but then thats just common sense.....
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Twizelbang
If anyone hasn't used
www.tankspot.com
... please check out the weekly Marmot, Lore does have some rather interesting idea's about "what Not" to spend valor points on.
Weekly Marmot for 28th Nov.
In this he talks about why "not" to upgrade the Rep / valor gear & to upgrade LFR instead ( as a option ) not set in stone etc... since it will work out better. Spending Valor points on Rep gear & then upgrade it, isn't worth it. (my own words) Lore does a better job :)
I agree with his concept.. i wouldn't spend my valor points on Rep gear. Unless i have no other options. Since RNG is the deciding factor. So with this idea, you will not run dry of Valor points. Unless you mindless use Valor points on things that can be upgraded rather quick. Most is just common sense....
Post by
Nooska
How you got the gear has no determining factor in whether you want to upgrade it.
What does, is that you have a cap per week and a total cap on VP (1k and 3k respectively). That means it takes 1.5 weeks to upgrade any item fully. This is a lot of time to invest in a single piece, so what you ened to look for is which item provides the best dps upgrade in a vacuum, and then look at what other options you have for upgrading said item. Normal tier items (496) would be a good place to start, as you won't likely be replacing those with a random drop just because it may be better itemized - after all the tier boni need to be factored in. Weapon is also a good place, and
Taoren, the Soul Burner
would be the best place to start if you have gotten it, as it will, with full upgrades, be better than any other weapon untill you get the normal mod version of it (because of the extra 500 agi from the sha-touched socket).
Apart from that, you will likely get a better dps upgrade for your valor by buying VP gear rather than upgrading a lower piece of gear - simply because the potential of the VP gear (or raid drop) is greater with the same time investment.
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